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>Society benefits greatly from mixed areas - race, class, etc.

Citation needed. Also If I buy a flat and I have to live with problematic people, how does that benefit me?


Forcing rich people to have exposure to poor people to not automatically equate "poor" with "problematic" is one benefit to society.


I'm not rich by any measure but I know the kind of people who receive social housing. Not saying they are all problematic but many of them are, and one bad neighbour is enough to make your life hell.


I agree with you, all the neighborhoods with social housing have thrash laying around, more crime (or general unsafe feeling) I know because I was living in the middle of it all in social housing. The problematic people live there their whole life, making their behavior the standard.


You don’t know the kind of people who receive social housing, and it shows.


I do, because I live surrounded by social housing blocks. And just last week they were lighting a campfire inside their building. After many years you can't imagine the things I've seen. Maybe it's you who doesn't know the kind of people who receive social housing.


You used the wrong sock puppet, vwdhx.


>The architecture of their home is telling them that they are inferior every time they enter their homes.

Well, they don't belong there. They are there because the government has mandated it. It's unnatural, and this is the result.


Not sure what the argument is here. Living in an apartment is completely unnatural in itself.


Desirable things being (expensive and therefore) affordable when you are rich enough is “natural”.

Desirable things being affordable when you are rich enough or poor enough is “unnatural”.


what would you consider natural? living outside in the bush?

in germany, owning property is considered unnatural or rather not the norm unless you are a farmer. it's all about how society develops and what it chooses as their lifestyle.


I see. So, who is going to make your coffee, sweep your streets, drive your buses, collect your trash, teach your children, and cook your meals, once all of the lower wage earners have been excluded from the area? You?


Probably much better paid versions of what you listed.


The funny thing is, by state funding cheaper living in expensive areas, you are just giving state subsidies to rich people. You subsidize services for rich people. Without that, they'd have to pay their service workers higher wages, so that they could afford living nearby or commuting. Or do you think rich people would juslt suck it up and do the cleaning themselves? They'd either pay more for services, or move away, which would lower the rents.

Socialism - reliably fails every time.


Incognito mode was conceived to not leave traces in your local system, hence its shortcomings to bypass paywalls. Making websites unaware of incognito mode was not part of the original design.


Maybe NAT breaks the Internet of twenty years ago. But we've already worked around it. I'm using a computer which is behind a NAT which is behind a CG-NAT and everything works fine. Sure, people can't connect to me directly, but why would I want that to happen? If anything, that makes my computer more secure.

I know this sounds like trolling, but let's be pragmatic.


Some users do want people to be able to connect to them directly though, hence Universal Plug and Play (UPnP), which can open ports on your router. You may disagree with the wisdom of automating the port forwarding process for people who don't understand networking concepts but there are people that do want other people to be able to connect to them directly, even if you don't.

Generalizing that one use case will suits everybody, fits about as well as one-size-fits-all clothing. Which never fits right.


Those that want or need a public IP can pay for it. I do. As you say, there is no one-size-fits-all.


This is why we are stuck with huge corporations to provide services to connect to each other. We are sacrificing privacy because we don't want direct connections. We could have hosted an Instagram clone at home as well if NAT wasn't there.

Ability to connect directly does not necessarily mean that you are somehow more vulnerable to attack. There are measures that you can take to prevent attacks from happening. It's trivial to configure.


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