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If they've switched to Hangouts, you will no longer be able to reach them. Google users using the old non-plus-ified gchat, which is being phased out, will still work as before, but for people who get upgraded to Hangouts, they'll be cut off. So this basically includes everyone on a smartphone, or everyone using video chat, and soon it will be just everyone entirely.


Aha. Maybe I just keep good company for failing to notice that.


Apparently they plan to end support for the "old" hangout version at some point in the future. Hopefully it's not soon.


Well that's certainly interesting, but me too, I haven't really noticed that.

Because while in the past, my primary reason for installing Pidgin was connecting to Google's excellent XMPP service, I now only have it hooked up to my Facebook account. I don't see any value in Hangouts. That's right. As creepy and closed as Facebook is, I still find it a much higher value service than Hangouts. Plus it actually lets me connect to people I know reliably.

Hangouts is the perfect example of taking a good service and throwing it in the shitters. I can barely use the official Android-client. It's just gone completely downhill.

It may not be too late for Google to recover from the terrible slope they've taken on ever since the persisted, user-hostile G+ fiasco, but I can't imagine the tarnish their brand has taken to ever have been worth it.


That is not my observation. It is also not clear what you mean with "get upgraded to Hangouts". I use Hangouts extensively, but I use also Gajim as client for my Google account and still I'm able to add XMPP contacts from non Google XMPP servers to my Google roster.

So I basically can confirm that Google did not turn off XMPP federation for their XMPP service. It appears that there is simply no UI to add users from federated servers over hangouts, but it works with standard XMPP clients. So you could say that "Google dropped support for XMPP in their UIs". But you can still use your Google account as plain XMPP service (which doesn't mean that I would encourage it or think that it's a good idea).

But I can't rule out that e.g. some servers can't federate with Google, for example because of policy restrictions.




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