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Hacker news for data scientists (datatau.com)
222 points by agibsonccc on Dec 12, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 66 comments


The hacker news for x trend is interesting, but I think the format is badly suited for small communities. The high data density of the front page makes a site with moderate activity feel like a ghost town.


I really love the adaptation of the format in lobste.rs. Adding tags I think helps especially the smaller and not-as-quickly moving communities.

http://lobste.rs


I'm surprised no one has made a "Hacker News for Hacker News for X" site yet...



Aggregate all the clones and you'll have it.


Too bad we can't just have tags here. Then we could watch/ignore the ones in which we're interested. StackOverFlow style...


https://lobste.rs/ has a nice implementation of that.


we do that at http://hubski.com you can follow/ignore users and/or tags.


Not being sarcastic, but isn't that just reddit?


Except with tags you could probably have multiple groups for single posts rather than having multiple posts in separate groups (or subreddits).


RSS feeds are great for that


Has any of the many "Hacker news for...." sites ever taken off?


well, i tend to view reddit as the 'hacker news for everything' if that counts..

otherwise, i don't really think so. but i'd argue its related in that reddit has made such sites largely unnecessary. subreddits can be as narrow or broad in topic, and as open or regulated in curation as one wants. i see little value in a 'finance news' (for example) when there's /r/finance and probably around 100 other finance-related subreddits out there..


There exists /r/programming and /r/coding and HN is still here.

In my opinion the success or failure of a site like this depends whether or not it has enough traction to start a good community, which at the end is what makes the difference.


while i think it is a factor, i don't buy the whole 'good community' thing being as important as many here make it out to be..

i think hn benefits mainly from the fact its backed by some big-name influencers whose activities are highly relevant to its target audience. their presence is essentially a feature of the site that provides value beyond ‘link aggregation and discussion’.. it’s a differentiating feature, and is one that’s very difficult one for a new entrant, like a subreddit, to overcome. it also probably helps a lot that hn predates reddit..

these other ‘hn-like’ sites have no such differentiating features, and that’s why i don’t see them ever taking-off.. and given that reddit already exists, they’re often competing against subreddits which benefit greatly in terms of visibility.


> hn predates reddit.

It doesn't. Paul Graham has said he made it to be like Reddit 'used to be' (in the early days, most of Reddit's users were sock puppets of the founders, and it was pretty high quality).


I personally don't give a rat's ass about the influencers. I come here for the articles and general discussion.


hn is interesting because its the intersection of technology/startup life/entrepreneurship and all the sub genres within those.

Intersections don't translate as well to subreddits.


Something that differentiates reddit with the set of HN clones is the discovery: on any subreddit you have a list of other subreddits and you can search for them if you want to explore about a new thing. Every HN clone is its own little island and can only count traffic from Google to build a community after the initial HN announcement. They should try to link to each other, or at least there should be a wiki page somewhere that lists all HN for X.


inbound.org seems to be doing well. I've found interesting views on marketing there, also not quite HN, some of the articles are just crap, but there are some quality posts that make it to the top of inbound fairly regularly. Great for a hacker who needs some inside scoop on marketing.


They all seem to die over time. I had high hopes for http://quant.ly, unfortunately it died off earlier this year after a 2-3 year run.


Designer News (http://news.layervault.com/) is pretty good and well frequented.


Just saw it and figured I'd pass it along. It's a topic specific niche I'd like to see more of. I'm sure the same is to be said for bitcoin enthusiasts and other random trend like that.

Hacker news for x is a funny concept by itself, but part of reddit's appeal for me is all about the subreddits. If someone wants to take the time to setup a topic specific niche why not?


Thanks! I wanted to wait before I posted it on Hacker News, but sooner the better I guess.


Sorry about that >:) I saw it on twitter this morning. It looked ready to go and needed some fresh blood in there to get it rolling so I figured why not.


This is one of the "HN for X" websites that I truly hope takes off. I have signed up, and submitted a few interesting articles. I've already found a few interesting reads on their homepage.

Best of luck to the DataTau founders!


Thanks Terrik!


A very small request: A favicon! Useful for discerning which tab is which when they're pinned in Firefox: https://s3.amazonaws.com/nerderati.captures/B5X0V.png


Similarly: Why does the icon feature a "D" and not the letter Tau (τ)? :)


Goodbye, hacker news


Cool. I just signed-up. Btw, I noticed that once you upvote a post, the points count changes immediately without needing to refresh the page.


meteor app?


Just checking, there are only one page worth of articles right now? And it's the website isn't broken?

Cause I can't find the next button...


It was born only this noon (Eastern Time).


Excellent and what a timing. We have built something more like reddit for data science / analytics. It's a closed beta (we're paranoid not to embarrass ourselves yet). If you guys are interested, please shoot me an email to include you in our, still private, system. No strings attached. We need more testers :)


What address? (You need to stick it in your bio to make it public.)


I didn't realize that until now! It's in my bio. Anyone interested, just shoot me an email to dominik (at) vga.hr We're also looking for more developers for our startup in this area.


I'd love to check it out.


Send me an email at dominik (at) vga.hr and I'll send you access info and all. Thanks!


It seems to be back live after a crash: http://www.datatau.com/news


This looks great, do you plan to add an RSS Feed for the front page at some point ? I couldn't find anyone yet!


Yes! I will add that soon. Thanks.


Can you give some info about your setup?


I really hope this takes off, not that I won't miss Snowden posts and general CNN-ish news :-)


Could it be possible to build a more or less comprehensive list of hacker-news-like websites?


Remember when you had to do science to be called a scientist?


If this were true, we couldn't count Archimedes. I mean, he just did physical science without an established scientific methodology, right?


Anyone know a good "hacker news for programmers?"



why is this better than making a subreddit?


Yes, with a subreddit folks will already be registered so there's no barrier to participation. On the other hand, because there's no barrier to participation then perhaps worse s/n ratio. But noise is better than silence.


So I saw the page and will probably sign up. However, there won't be a strong motivation for me to come participate unless there is a) A minimum threshold of folks who use it actively. or b) I keep seeing it in my feed. I visit HN and reddit every day and that is easier for me to participate in.


Where did the site go? I was digging it!


Me, too!


I don't mind seeing a "HN for xyz" site, but it bugs me when the design is exactly the same as HN.


Hi Karan. I am the person hosting DataTau. I completely understand what you're saying.

First, news.arc's style is something that people are used to and comfortable with; it's tried and tested. I decided not to reinvent the wheel.

But perhaps more importantly, I'm not a web developer. If I have to learn how to build a news site from scratch, I might as well wait and see if there is a requirement for it in the first place, right?


Hacker News is open source, it's likely running the same code.


Have a link to source code?



>exactly the same as HN

One of the first noticeable aspects of the site is how much harsher on the eyes a pure white background is compared to the #f6f6ef used at HN.


here's one that isn't the same style http://devmaster.net :)


neat stuff !

There already seems a lot of traction there.


thank you, thank you, thank you.


no RSS?


There's no link to it at the bottom of the homepage, but they do have a feed: http://www.datatau.com/rss


no twitter ?




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