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Wrong question: why shouldn't Google merge systems?

(as you say, there's no compelling reason for them not to)

Right question: Why did they release it in the current state, which is, I think it's fair to say, 1) a disaster and 2) technically rubbish for all the reasons in the OP.

You should be asking: Why, when building a cross-site system to leave comments, are their clever engineers ignoring the established discipline of spam protection, which they know how to use, and building a system optimized for social peer ranking, sharing cat videos and trolling?



Point. Google needed a good competitor to Disqus far more than they needed a competitor to Facebook. Sadly, Plus is obviously a better Facebook than it is a Disqus.

But either way, it makes the Real Names Only thing more obviously false: you're making a general-purpose reusable platform and not a specific social network of your own. It's a "Social Layer", right?

In that case, forcing the users to adhere to a real-names policy instead of providing an official supported path for anonymity or pseudonymity sticks out as trying to push your users into a pattern that they might not find a natural fit for them. And by "users" I don't mean the commenters, I mean the pages to which the comments are attached - if I want to allow anonymous/pseudonymous comments attached to my channel or page or whatever I have a Plus thread associated with, why doesn't Google support this?


They do officially support anonymity, up to 50 anonymous G+ identities on one Gmail account: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2848323

Even made a video explaining how to do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKBGsu0TxnY

Really the underlying problem here is that "Google+, the unified platform/identity system" has the same name as "Google+, the social network which lives at plus.google.com". People just blank out anything they do/say due to the assumptions which arise from conflating the two.


Let's say I have an anonymous pseudonym used on a number of other sites. I can now have it on Google+, with one big difference: it's no longer anonymous. Google will know who's using it because of their real name policy, and can then put two and two together across sites they don't own.

Anonymity means no-one knows who you are, not "no-one except Google."


You don't need a G+ Profile on your @gmail address to create G+ Page pseudonyms for Youtube. Your main address will continue to go plus-less, and other services which strictly require a Real Name/G+ profile (like Places/Play reviews) will continue to nag you to create one.


That's interesting - thank you. I'll check it out.


... I did not know that. Obviously, from my post above. Yay, I have a Plus page with a nickname! So, can I comment as Pxtl? Can I do that on Android play store reviews?


Additional point: Google's now chasing Facebook's stupidity--on Android. Facebook put out an idiotic failure of a launcher based on Facebook messaging. Well, now Google's following suit with an idiotic failure of a launcher called Google Experience Launcher on the Neuxs 5. Everyone's still crowing over it (because few people actually have it or have experienced it's uglyness), but it's truly atrocious.




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