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Here was my solution in grades 1-12:

Too soon in the early grades, get dumped on by the teachers, just give up, learn enough just without really trying, and depend on social promotion.

When get to the good stuff, math and science in grades 9-12, just sleep in class, ignore the teachers, refuse to submit or admit to doing any homework, have utter contempt for the teachers, study the text largely independently, be one of the best students in the school on the state aptitude and achievement tests, end up with Ivy League SAT scores.

In college, do much the same, write a math honors paper, and get good GRE scores.

At work find a good problem and on an airplane ride get an intuitive solution.

Then back in school, in graduate school, use material in a great course in the first year to make good math out of the intuitive solution, write some illustrative software, submit the work as the Ph.D. dissertation, pass an oral defense, graduate, and be done with formal education.

So, do something like in the OP but within the formal system, with a lot of sleeping in class and ignoring that system.

There were some great times!

(1) In eighth grade general science, the teacher was explaining partial vacuums and applying those to the operation of a traditional farm house lift pump. I glanced at his diagram and put my head down to sleep.

He decided to call on me to explain the pump; yup, looked like he was trying to stick me for sleeping in class! So, I just closed my eyes, imagined the pump diagram, and went through the whole pump cycle in excessive detail, with each pressure difference and each valve opening and closing, and he never bothered me again!

(2) In plane geometry, I was totally in love with the subject and ate the exercises like popcorn by the hand full.

There were some more difficult supplementary exercises in the back of the book, and one of these I didn't get on Friday afternoon so continued and finally got it Sunday evening. I worked 100% of the non-trivial exercises.

On Monday in class, the teacher worked an easy exercise with the same figure, and for the first and last time I raised my hand and said that there was an exercise in the back with the same figure. About 20 minutes later the teacher was loudly exhorting the class "Think, class, think! Think about the given ...."

Since I didn't want to be accused of ruining the whole class, I raised my hand and started "Why don't we ...", and the teacher screamed "You knew how to do it all along." Of COURSE I knew how to do it; no way would I have asked otherwise. Besides, how'd I know that she wasn't also doing all the exercises?

(3) A question on the state test was how to inscribe a square in a semi-circle. I thought, construct a square, circumscribe the circle, and find the crucial length in the given figure by constructing a fourth proportional, and after school wanted to check my solution so started and she said about my square "You can't do that". As I later learned, I'd shown her 'similitude', my reinvention of an advanced technique.

Of course the schools are from mostly useless down to really destructive, but, still, it's possible, especially if ignore the teachers and sleep in class, to learn fairly well anyway.

Besides, especially here on HN, nearly all of the US software industry depends on self-learning.

Yes, in time there will be some good groups for support and guidance for home schooling with, often, some occasional small classes by really well qualified teachers. Then the public K-12 system will be regarded as the cheap, low grade, bottom level, last hope alternative for disadvantaged children and be much less well funded than now because nearly all the good families will be using private alternatives and not care about the public system.

Yes, the current public system is a disaster for education and the children, but, you have to remember, it's really expensive!



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