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An internal Amazon company motto is, "it's still day 1." That's their view -- that it's still the early days of the internet. That's why they reinvest so heavily, because it's still early days.

MS people I spoke with as late as the late 90s still considered themselves to be a 'startup' (though not using that term), but were quick to point out that they could get disrupted in any market - they were playing in many fields, but weren't dominant ("yet", in their minds). I think this was perpetuated by the sr mgt in anticipation of the anti-trust trials - 'look, we're not some big monopoly - we're a scrappy startup that could fail/lose big at any time!'. I'm not sure anyone believed it, but also not sure that anyone in the mid 90s might have foreseen a time when MS wasn't a dominant player, but here we are.

They're still big, and they matter, in some markets, but very few people are afraid of them any more, or even care what their plans for the future are. People fear Google, Apple, Amazon, etc. MS is, if not totally dead man walking, in grave danger of becoming that without anyone (including their mgt) even noticing.



You should probably buy some MSFT at the open tomorrow and fund it with a short position in AMZN. For posterity's sake, the closing price of both companies today was:

8/8/2013 AMZN: $295.74 @ $135.12 billion market cap MSFT: $32.89 @ $273.97 billion market cap


He thinks Microsoft is in trouble and Amazon is strong ... so you suggest he should short Amazon to buy Microsoft?


Thank you - I wasn't sure what the point of that was, other than illustrating that perhaps I don't make my points clear enough. :)


I think you are a tradeable fade!


I get that a lot, actually.

Still trying to figure out what it means, but thank you.


What is your point exactly? These numbers don't mean anything in an investment point of view. You can't compare them.




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