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Arigato in Japanese is said to be a borrowing from Portuguese Obrigado (might want to verify that!).


Japanese is fascinating to me as a language freak for the enormous amount of borrowing. As an English speaker, as long as you can decode katakana (easy to learn) you can probably walk around the streets of Tokyo and read half the signs.


No, it's documented, as is tempura. It's like pancakes: you make them before the time of fasting. "The Time of X" in Spanish is "tempora X" and I would bet Portuguese is similar.

There are loads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_words_of_Port...


It's listed there under False cognates.

> evidence indicates arigatō has a purely Japanese origin

I remain suspicious, though. Maybe what happened was the popularization of an existing Japanese term under the influence of Portuguese Jesuits, since it sounded similar to obrigado?


Perfectly possible. I think I've seen evidence elsewhere of similar but unrelated words influencing each other. For example, round about where I live the Romany word "shan" is used meaning "mean" or "worthless", but it seems to have been influenced by the unrelated "sean" in Gaelic (also pronounced "shan") which means "old". So it's come to mean something worn out as well.


In general, I think this phenomenon is called "phono-semantic matching": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phono-semantic_matching.


Gura mie eu.


She dty vea. :-)

(I do not actually speak Manx, but 2026 is the Year of the Manx Language. I should learn some.)


I know a little. I was taught by Brian Stowell many years ago and have his novel here along with a Manx Bible.


Oh, fantastic!


Even more interesting is when words are borrowed back!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reborrowing

For example, katsu from cutlet, is borrowed back into English to mean… cutlet.

And when combined with “curry” as in “katsu curry” the journey meanders all the way through Tamil, Portuguese, Japanese and English, following sailors where they went.




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