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Well, it only took 15 years to someone to fix one of many Wayland design flaws and start to make it feel usable.

Now it will take another 15 years for people to settle down in a set of common protocols instead of writing their own extension protocols and others 15 years for window managers to mature at the same level of the X11 window managers.

Then, people who think they know better than everyone else will throw Wayland away and start from zero all over again.

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It's a shame because Wayland has made complicated what most contributed to the growth of Linux in the last few years: gaming. I still can't run most of my library on Wayland without the added latency of XWayland. It's great if it's one step back to take a big leap, but this feels like two steps back one step forward without much of a plan for parity.

As the sibling comment said, with WSL becoming better and better, it's a dangerous game to play.


Except if you need WSLg, because then you can add RDP issue to all your Wayland issues, and, not infrequently, also xwayland issues! You can have all the fun!

If you reinvented Wayland, there's little reason you would t get the same thing.

The "limitations" are political, not technical.


Which is why WSL and Virtualiztion Framework have become the best way to have the Year of Desktop Linux, I really don't bother any other way.

I thought I still did as my travel netbook died, but then I ended up in UEFI mess, regardless of the distro, and decided in the end to give that role to a Samsung tablet with DEX support instead.


I don't know in what parallel world do you live, but current Wayland it's pretty usable and useful for normal users.

I live in the real world where Wayland breaks by design the workflow of lots of people and Wayland people refuse to acknowledge that.

The same way x11 broke the workflow of a lot of people coming to Linux or BSD for decades and the same way I can't use a windows or Mac computer without swearing.

You can't expect that everyone will ever be happy, it has never been the case and definitely wasn't when x11 was the default choice.

Despite all that, nothing prevents you to stay on X11 so you have absolutely zero reason to complain.


Could you elaborate?

Not the OP, but a few weeks ago I posted a comment about my problems with Wayland, which forced me to go back to X11. (I am still using it.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46001622




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