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Parent is referring to the same president as the grandparent...

Trump has murdered 2 innocent U.S. citizens so far, and was president when COVID started. Trump's response to COVID was part of why he lost the 2020 election.



> Trump has murdered 2 innocent U.S. citizens so far

Are you referring to documented murders from the Epstein files, or to Melissa and Mark Hoffman?


Alex Pretti and Renee Good, both murdered on Trump's orders to shoot ICE protestors.


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By your logic, Khamenei probably hasn't murdered anyone either, right? What a pitiful "argument".

While other Presidents would go as far as putting signs saying "the buck stops here" on the Resolute Desk, the current President's sign would say "the buck stops anywhere but here".

Let's also see what happens with New Mexico's investigation of the Zorro Ranch...

Self defense, my ass. Neither situation posed ANY credible threat to those agents, despite what ICE Barbie got up and said in front of a podium twenty minutes after the event.


to be fair, the prior respondent did seem to agree with the word 'murder' so perhaps we're all ultimately in agreement about what happened :|


if it's self-defence then more or less by definition it isn't murder.


Who said it was self defense? ICE, within minutes? Trump, within minutes?

Despite blatantly contradictory video?


I'm just pointing out that you are probably not in agreement with simianparrot. I don't think it does count as self-defense.




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