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"It looks designed" means nothing. It could be our ignorance at play (we have a long proven track record of being ignorant about how things work).




Yes. Or it could be an optimisation algorithm like evolution.

Or even just lots and lots of variation and some process selecting which one we focus our attention one. Compare the anthropic principle.


For all we know, it could be distinct layers all the way down to infinity. Each time you peel one, something completely different comes up. Never truly knowable. The universe has thrown more than a few hints that our obsession with precision and certainty could be seen cosmically as "silly".

In our current algorithmic-obsessed era, this is reminiscent of procedural generation (but down/up the scale of complexity, not "one man's sky" style of PG).

However, we also have a long track record of seeing the world as nails for our latest hammer. The idea of an algorithm, or even computation in general, could be in reality conceptually closer to "pointy stone tool" than "ultimate substrate".


> For all we know, it could be distinct layers all the way down to infinity. Each time you peel one, something completely different comes up. Never truly knowable. The universe has thrown more than a few hints that our obsession with precision and certainty could be seen cosmically as "silly".

That's a tempting thing to say, but quantum mechanics suggests that we don't have infinite layers at the bottom. Most thermodynamic arguments combined with quantum mechanics. See eg also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bekenstein_bound about the amount of information that can even in theory be contained in a specific volume of space time.


From the link you shared:

> the maximum amount of information that is required to perfectly describe a given physical system _down to the quantum level_

(emphasis added by me)

It looks like it makes predictions for the quantum layer and above.

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Historically, we humans have a long proven track record of missing layers at the bottom that were unknown but now are known.




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