> If all of "AI stuff" is a "no" for you, then I think you just signed out off working in most industries to some important degree going forward.

I'm not sure the penetration of AI, especially to a degree where participants must use it, is all that permanent in many of these industries. Already the industry where it is arguably the most "present" (forced in) is SWE and its proving to be quite disappointing... Where I work the more senior you are the less AI you use

Just the opposite where I work. Seniors are best positioned to effectively use AI and are using it enthusiastically.

Because senior devs always have to toe the line of every corporate fad or they are pushed out.

Yeah, gotta disagree with this one. Every senior and above around me have figured a workflow that makes their job faster. Internal usage dashboards say the same thing.

Fighting with anecdotes is as productive as always. Especially over trends.

The big issue is Ai isn't profitable. Streaming services is actuslly useful, but well see how that lasts.

Even if it isn't, the OP can still make hay while the sun is still shining, even if it'll eventually set, as the saying goes. But to not make hay and slowly see it set while losing your income, I won't ever understand that.

> what the market wants

Pretty sure the market doesn't want more AI slop.

Nobody that actually understands the market right now would say that

Nobody paid to pretend to actually understand the market would say that. They have a paycheck to get.

Meanwhile, actual consumer sentiment is at all time lows for AI.

Source: trust me bro

There is absolutely AI slop out there. Many companies rushed to add AI, a glorified chat bot to their existing product, and have marketed it as AI.

There is also absolutely very tasteful products that add value using LLM and other more recent advancements.

Both can exist at the same time.

>Both can exist at the same time.

They can. But I'm not digging in a swamp to find a gold nugget. Let me know when swamp is drained. Hopefully the nugget isn't drained with it.

You just reply to all my comments with your negativity. If you cannot see it, I am sorry for you.

Don't know who you're talking about. I took a scan and see this is my only reply to you anywhere in this chaiin. If everywre you go smells.....

Try to focus on the argument next time instead of the person. Especially if you're leaving so many replies you can't keep up with. "I'm sorry for you" isn't convincing anyone and only weakinig your point.

Oh get over it. I truly dislike replies that gaslight. You replied to 3-4 of my comments with the same doom and gloom, it’s a swamp, it’s all hype. I am saying unless you having something new just stop it.

Pretty sure HN has become completely detached from the market at this point.

Demand for AI anything is incredible high right now. AI providers are constantly bouncing off of capacity limits. AI apps in app stores are pulling incredible download numbers.

If you only focus on money and not the actual societal effects, it's very easy to divorce yourself from society. Thars prerty much what billionaires have been doing for decades now.

Data centre's and the stock market are not humans. They are powered by humans who's incentives do not align with the betterment of humanity. Be careful looking down the green abyss.

I understand it as the market wanting more content about competing in an AI world

Sora's app has a 4.8 rating on the app store with 142K rating. It seems to me that the market does not care about slop or not, whether I like it or not.

>the market does not care about slop or not

Okay. Lemme know when they need to pay for it. A free app for a trillion dollar investment isn't the flex Altman wants to make it seem.

I don't understand why you're being downvoted, you're not wrong. I think Suno being successful bums me out, I really hate it, but people that are not me love it. I can't do anything about that.

>but people that are not me love it

Are people that are not you making it profitable? That's the obvious issue.

Maybe not now. I imagine it'll go the way of many other things: buy demand with a product that beats alternatives in perceived quality and/or cost -> create a dependence on the product -> wait for the death of competition -> monetize heavily on a dependent userbase.

The market wants a lot more high quality AI slop and that's going to be the case perpetually for the rest of the time that humanity exists. We are not going back.

The only thing that's going to change is the quality of the slop will get better by the year.

>The market wants a lot more high quality AI slop

They sure aren't paying for it. It's great how we're on a business topic we're not talking about the fact that the market demand doesn't match the investment put into it.