Who do you think was buying options 30 years ago? Institutional demand, particularly for non-OTC options, was zero. Countries which have legalized gambling tend not to have large options markets.

There is no convergence. They have always been the same thing. The difference is that you can provide a venue where harm is reduced or one where harm is maximised.

Wasn't around to personally witness it, but I do not believe the first part is true:

https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk2/1990/9015/901507.PDF, specifically page 94.

Also, IMO there is a big difference between an open market that allows for price discovery and free trading versus placing bets against the same casino at predetermined prices.

Options markets help farmers and miners decide how much to invest in future production. Ditto the consumer of a commodity faced with an investment decision where the success of the investment depends on continued access to the commodity.

Are you thinking of the futures market? That's different than options

Options can be thought of as a form of insurance, so they have a useful purpose.

In the simplest case you might hold a stock and a put to limit your downside for a set period of time.

The opposite is also true - you can use options to increase risk. I don't think insurance is a particularly good analogy in general.

I mean generally speaking derivatives can be used as insurance or for speculation, and a wide gradient of gray in between.

By contrast, sports gambling is well, gambling. And importantly as we've seen in a lot of reports - the big online sports books essentially freeze out anyone who is good so that they are collecting revenue primarily from the.. innumerate.

Of course you also have some markets like India without legal gambling and oversized derivatives markets that are unfortunately serving as a replacement.

I'd also point out that you don't see the sort of degenerate nonstop advertising for options punting that you see for sports gambling. "Thanks for tuning into the ESPN FanDuel pregame show at the Caesars Superdome / and don't forget to stop by the DraftKings Sportsbook lounge." Followed by a barrage of other gambling ads in between plays.

They are roughly the same thing packaged differently. Both can be used to lock-in the price at a certain premium.

They are both derivatives but using a farmer as an example is 100% futures.

For commodities, the Futures demand delivery of the underlying. Options are settles in cash.

Yes. My bad.

I still can't take him seriously, he's a long time crypto grifter exposing grifting, why should we enable him? I don't follow him very closely but he always positioned himself as a pick me saavy crypto investor not like the others (who were into shitcoins).

Any example video?