So as long as there is one Hamas left standing, everyone around must die. This i...

dotancohen · 2025-09-16T21:22:36 1758057756

So as long as there is one Hamas left standing, he could return the hostages and end the war.

actionfromafar · 2025-09-16T21:29:31 1758058171

So, you don't disagree. That's pretty telling.

SilverElfin · 2025-09-16T21:50:47 1758059447

Nor do you. Why can’t Hamas surrender and turn over hostages? Why should Israel put up with a continued threat against its residents of any magnitude?

actionfromafar · 2025-09-16T21:57:53 1758059873

Can the non-Hamas surrender and live? No, they can just stay and die. Tell me, what should a non-Hamas member in Gaza do right now to avoid getting bombed?

Edit: I found your answer to that question:

https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=45268680&goto=threads%...

Paraphrased, the children are part of the culture and may die. There are no civilians.

dotancohen · 2025-09-16T22:01:27 1758060087

  > what should a non-Hamas member in Gaza do right now to avoid getting bombed

Evacuate when told to by the IDF. It's terrible, but it's better than being bombed.

But you are correct - the responsibility to end the war and prevent further civilian casualties lies squarely with Hamas. Pressure them to return the hostages, don't pressure Israel to capitulate to terrorists.

actionfromafar · 2025-09-16T22:06:05 1758060365

Except in practice, IDF bombs "safe" areas too. There's no out.

But it seems you are getting your way, we will find out exactly how many dead are acceptable to mr Bibi.

adhamsalama · 2025-09-16T21:38:20 1758058700

That's if the Israeli army won't kill the captives after they're freed.