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You're probably on the wrong side of history. As society gets wealthier fancy toys like motorcycles proliferate and more people have a stake in being able to use them.

I think the way the flood of Side by Sides onto the market gave enough of the public an interest in off road motoring to overwhelm the "hikers only" advocates decades old tactic of variously allying with different groups to get the others kicked out is highly illustrative here.

When motorcycles are commonly electric and require basically no maintenance and can simply be turned on in the spring year after year the barrier to entry is gonna drop even further and you're really gonna be up shit creek.


When motorcycles are electric, my personal objections to many motorcycles will become moot: they will stop being obnoxiously loud and they will stop being highly polluting. (Yes, I realize that this isn’t all motorcycles, and I also realize that there are cars with exactly the same problem.)

Seriously, many motorcycles are louder and stinkier than an entire block full of cars.


“Fancy toys like motorcycles” - looks like you’ve never been to less developed countries where motorcycles swarm not because they are fancy but because they are cheap. Also tend to be driven by people with no training or concept of safety (whole families on a tiny scooter). Truly a sight to behold.


What are you talking about? My bike is quieter than most cars.

How about not generalising?


It's not, it's fucking loud. Source: I live in a city, and I see that 99% of bikes are fucking twice louder as any car


> It's not, it's fucking loud.

It's not. Source: I actually own it rather than having to rely on making broad generalisations.

> I live in a city

I also live in a city, many of us do. You are not unique. Many of us in my street have had to file numerous noise complaints against various cars in the street, yet i've never received a single complaint about my bike.

> I see that 99% of bikes are fucking twice louder as any car

Sounds like an issue specific to were you live. I couldnt tell you the last time I heard a bike around here, but the peace is disturbed here by a car almost every other minute of the day.

In fact, we have to pack up and move house because our neighbours car and his friends cars are so absurdly loud and they will sit there and just rev the shit out of them for 20-30 minutes at a time multiple times a day.




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