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Unless you are yourself a robber baron the likes of Zuck, you should look up this little concept called "class solidarity."


I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here of people seeing greed only in those with more income than them but never in themselves when they accept those generous big-tech, big-finance, big-ad-tech, big-4, big-pharma compensation packages from the evil robber barons they claim to hate. If you hate them so much why are you taking their blood money?

Also, there is no class solidarity the way you imagine it in your fantasy, because to the average person on the street putting the fries in the bag ac McD, or stacking shelves at Walmart, or tearing down the roads with a jackhammer in the summer heat, the big-tech worker is closer to the robber baron Zuckerberg, than they are to them. So when you get laid off from your big-tech job, they won't have solidarity for you, they might even break a smile, as those spoiled pampered tech worker are brought down from their Kombucha sipping ivory towers.

Class solidarity, as seen applied in Europe, means bringing the income of tech workers in line with unskilled labor till everyone is equally lower-middle class, not touching the super wealthy robber barons to contribute more to society, because no society does that, that's just fantasy. Look at the owner of IKEA's complex tax avoidance scheme: https://www.greens-efa.eu/legacy/fileadmin/dam/Documents/Stu... Do you think he has any class solidarity? He has more in common with Musk, Zuckerberg or XiJinping than with his average Swedish countrymen.

The more class solidarity you wish and vote for, the higher the tax burdens will be on skilled and ambitious middle class workers and small businesses, not on Zuckerberg or the elites with inherited wealth. So be careful what you wish for. My country already went through communism once and everyone had enough of "class solidarity" for the next lifetime, but there's always some westerners out there who cling on that "this time it will be different". Sure buddy.


> the big-tech worker is closer to the robber baron Zuckerberg

A big tech worker earning 200k is closer to a minimum wage worker earning 20k per year than Zuckerberg earning 20M per year with net worth of 200B


Yes, but from the point of view of the minimum wage worker, they don't identify with either the engineer or Zuck, so those two are equivalent.


What now? How would you even begin to know this? It sounds like you are out of touch if you don't think low wage earners can tell the vast difference between normal people and billionaires.


The tech worker and the billionaire both have enough money. The menial worker does not. See the difference yet?


tech workers are in every literal way closer to construction workers than billionaires, and everyone i know knows it, even the construction workers.

Did you know my construction worker friend actually makes as much as i do? Amazing what class solidarity in the form of unions can achieve, eh?


The owner of IKEA is literally in the same class as Zuck lmao what are you even on about


The founder of IKEA, Ingvar Kamprad, passed away in 2018.

IKEA is currently owned by a series of foundations.

On account of Ingvar Kamprad being dead, they're not really in the same class.

Before Ingvar Kamprad passed away, his estimated worth was $42.5B -- $58.7B.

Compared, Zuck's estimated worth is $221.2B -- $247B.


Yeah that very much puts them both in the same class


And he's got a scheme to avoid taxes, i think is the takeaway here




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