Strange comment. Strange because at the high end, I very much doubt that any non-human ape will ever get close to Adam Ondra's ascent of "Silence" (9c). On the other hand, the average human is very much less able to climb trees and other topologically similar objects than most apes. So I am not sure that it really makes sense to talk about "our lack of climbing ability" - in humans, it is unevenly exercised and thus shows huge range, but the best humans can climb in ways that I doubt most or any other apes could.
Not realy. It is pretty common to compare the average ability when we are comparing between species. For example when we say cheetahs can run at X m/s we don’t talk about the speed of the fastest cheetah who won the cheetah olympics. They just measured a few and we use that as a basis.
> I very much doubt that any non-human ape will ever get close to Adam Ondra's ascent of "Silence" (9c).
I don’t know what you base this on. Is this just a hunch? Are we talking here about the chances of a monkey randomly catching a fancy for that cliff? Because i agree that is unlikely to happen. But with a sufficintly trained and motivated one I wouldn’t be so sure.
We do frequently quote the highest clocked figures for animals. But have we recorded any other ape achieving things that moderately trained mountain climbers do? No need to quote the best in class human climbers, how many 14K peaks have even been traversed by any other ape besides humans? Vanishingly few. Probably zero. No apes are better than humans at vertical mountain climbing.
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I think if any other primate trained as much Adam Ondra has they would completely smoke him in any climbing challenge. You're comparing apples to oranges. He is an extreme outlier, it makes no sense to compare an extreme outlier from one group to the average of another. The vast majority of humans can't even do what he's done.
No I don't think most apes are particularly adept at mountain climbing. Another thing humans are exceptionally good at is planning and endurance, which mountain climbing requires.
One of the most amusing things in your comment is the idea of training, which only humans really do.
