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I’m just not surprised given the flood of videos showing ridiculous manufacturing issues and Musks desire/need to reinvent the wheel unnecessarily.

I had considered getting a Tesla for years but there’s no way I can make that purchase make sense now.



I think Tesla managed to really tap into that "something new" in the world of cars where things are very homogenized. Fans were happy to be the beta testers, for a long time.

Having said that, I'm with you, for me my car takes me from place to place, that's all I want.


Tesla's done the same brilliant job GM did in the 80s of demonstrating why ostentatious novelty in the auto industry tends rare, and I think for most of the same reasons.


It has come full circle. Now I see a Tesla supercharger full of 95% identical vehicles and think they are too homogeneous.


Working at an office park in the Bay Area, literally, and I mean literally, 50% of the cars are Teslas in the parking lot (mostly model 3 and Y).


... but now, the "something new" isn't that new anymore. The model 3 looks similar today to how it looked in 2018 right? And in some places, they're everywhere. I can see how the more recently released EV models from other manufacturers feel newer, haven't had the same quality control PR disasters as Tesla, and don't have a CEO who is a giant political liability.


Yeah I agree, they came out with the truck and ... everything else is just same old same old.


Well, I mean would you be willingly sponsoring high profile nazi sympathizer who yearns for totalitarian dictatorship and mocks people speaking about freedom and democracy, all over the world?

Absolutely nothing changed (and people generally don't change, not for the better at least), he is still same pos he was globally considered few months ago. Still same person who was making up pedophile claims of a french diver who actually rescued kids trapped in cave, not some boasting of submarine who would be too little too late, if ever. I know people love to quickly forget bad parts of people they admire or worship, but I don't see a reason why.

Competition offers a lot, people don't have to be ashamed to drive it or be afraid to let it be parked anywhere.


seriously just put door handles like a normal car, both inside and out, wtf is wrong with this guy. also drop the freaking wind doors for X, they are tacky, annoying and full of issues.


Or for door handles, if you really don't want drag, use an over-center mechanism like in a retracting pen: press in to get it to pop out, purely mechanical. Include an actuator to allow automatic extension of the handles via software, but let the user mechanically actuate it as a fallback. These sorts of mechanisms aren't new, or difficult.


Please link to recent "ridiculous manufacturing issues" on their best selling cars ( model y and 3 )





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