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> browsing all kinds of sketchy sites with Firefox and chrome

How did you install those - downloaded via another system? Because with that old system, you are missing ssl certificates (Firefox and Chrome bring their own).



Maybe, but with good old Windows PKI you’re bound to still have a working chain of trust with Mozilla/Google.

…either that or the machine cheated and updated root CAs in the background (which isn’t Windows Update-controlled anymore).




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