Sales numbers are not good, ok, but a fact is: ID.7 is until now (2025) the most...

milch · 2025-03-15T17:55:02 1742061302

Interestingly the Tesla Model Y seems to have dropped very quickly, you can also find the year-end report for 2024 here where Model Y was number 1: https://www.adac.de/news/auto-bilanz-e-autos-2024/

If you look at the data for 2023 you can also see that Tesla sold about the same number of any of their model as VW did for the ID series (both ~60k). That seems to have stayed flat for VW in 2024 according to the table from ADAC, but Tesla overall sales dropped significantly to ~30k. If you extrapolate the February numbers they are on track to halve sales again this year, while VW is on track to sell 30k more cars than they did last year (I know extrapolation is not going to be super accurate here)

simion314 · 2025-03-15T09:24:50 1742030690

I know in EU Tesla sales are down compared to previous year while EV sales are up. We do not know for sure how much of this is Elon's comments and support of fascists and how much is other cars getting better, but if we wait more data will be available.

mk89 · 2025-03-15T13:13:43 1742044423

I think it's both. There is also a sense of "buy german cars because people are getting fired and losing jobs" etc. (=buy local)

Very difficult to measure, but I wouldn't minimize it.