Firefox was the last bastion of freedom on the internet and the replacements aren't ready.

> But do you think these can be a full browser replacement without extension ecosystems like ublock origin et al.?

I'm now actually trying to use qutebrowser as a replacement... it's not easy due to the lack of extensions, but mitigating factors are:

1. it has integrated adblock (though no cosmetic filtering) 2. there are userscripts to integrate with the Bitwarden CLI or a running instance of KeepassXC.

If you're on macOS, then Kagi's Orion seems good:

https://kagi.com/orion

It's been working fine for me anyway.

They are working on Orion for Linux this year as well

I pay for Kagi and I would definitely pay for Orion on Linux.

Thanks, that's extremely good news. :)

interesting they have resources to build a browser. also interesting (and sad) they focus on Apple and not Windows. Hopefull, they'll port it to Windows and Linux.

Worth mentioning that Orion is fully based on WebKit. Calling it a “Safari wrapper” would be unfair, but it’s also not extremely far from that either.

None of these three are currently suitable for casual browsing unfortunately.