My citation is that I'm stupid and got them confused with BLM.
That said (and I'll take my lumps for it,) Antifa basically came up as an anti-Trumpist reactionary movement, so still leftist. Probably all wanted Bernie.
Person online acknowledges mistake. Noting the date/time as Internet history. Can't really say anything except "respect".
But, yeah, I don't know what Antifa is in the modern American context. They did seem to arise here as a reaction to Trump. But, oddly, it was referenced then as if they'd always been active in the U.S. I remember thinking, "did I miss something?"
Thereafter, they magically appeared as if on cue when the right needed to be spooked or "motivated", as in 2020. They were a convenient bogeymen.
Combine that with their anonymous nature, "fluid" membership, known alt-right hoaxes and impersonations thereof, and I'd bet they were more false flag than authentic, even if it was initially organic.
>But, oddly, it was referenced then as if they'd always been active in the U.S. I remember thinking, "did I miss something?"
I think that was mostly propaganda. They were "active" in the sense that some form of anti-fascist or extreme leftist movement existed in the US prior to Trump, at least according to the Wikipedia page, but "Antifa" as an identity is clearly post-Trump viral marketing. I guess it depends on how much value you put on the label versus the ideology.
>I mean, where are they now?
Where is the hacker known as "anonymous" now? Even QAnon seems to have mostly fallen off the radar. Have they disappeared, or does the media simply not pay as much attention to them anymore?
I always have to remember that consensus reality is manufactured by capitalist and state interests, it's a product like any other, and its purpose is to influence and monetize first, and reflect objective reality last. Events are always happening in the background that I'm not aware of, simply because it isn't commercially or politically viable to make me aware.
That said (and I'll take my lumps for it,) Antifa basically came up as an anti-Trumpist reactionary movement, so still leftist. Probably all wanted Bernie.