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>As I recall, a big part of growing up was spending time and doing things my parents didn’t want me to do.

a big part of parenting is making sure your kid actually is at school, or monitoring more closely a child that has done improper things.



In the 80's/90's if I was somewhere I shouldn't be or doing something that I shouldn't there was a 70% chance that when I got home my mother would know. The neighbourhood network of eyes was more powerful than googles all seeing eyes.


Ha, everyone here is forgetting that. And also, that all our personal documents were unencrypted :-) Parents could freely snoop if they wanted to.


Come to think of it, the padlocked diary and encouragement to write all ones secrets in it might have been a psyop.


are you under the impression that the same neighborhood network of eyes is in operation all over the place like it was then or?

Also - when my daughter hacks all of her ex-boyfriend's social media accounts, should I monitor her activities by going and talking to the snooping neighbors?


Or - A big part of parenting is building trust with your child to do what is expected of them, and dealing with it when they stray.


Or - A bi gpart of parenting is making sure the kids understand why they have to go to school and how lucky they are to be able to.

(but I 100% agree with you, trust is not achieved with panopticon control)


> trust is not achieved with panopticon control

Indeed, it is actually eroded.


>dealing with it when they stray.

I know we're not supposed to assume reading comprehension problems here, so I just have to assume that your dealing with it when they stray does not have any component of monitoring in it? Because I said "or monitoring more closely a child that has done improper things." and everyone seems to think that you shouldn't monitor someone that has done improper things - I really don't get it?

Seems like apathy, oh your kid is sneaking out with other kids to drink, well give them a talking to and then whatever you do, don't monitor them!

Oh your kid got a sugar daddy on Roblox, hmm, well go talk to the neighbors next door, the 1980s neighbor network was the best way to ever keep track of your kids for every kid that didn't grow up in the 1980s.

Half of the commentators here seem to think I'm living in the 80s, and the other half seem to think I'm living in Kansas, but everyone is in agreement on one thing which is that I should definitely behave myself to their model of raising kids in 1980s Kansas.


> a big part of parenting is making sure your kid actually is at school

Quite sure that is the schools job. At least where I live the schools tend to assume several of the rights and responsibilities that normally fall on the parents.

> or monitoring more closely a child that has done improper things.

Do I want to know what you fucked up in your childhood that you assume your kids need constant monitoring to prevent a repeat?


> Quite sure that is the schools job. At least where I live the schools tend to assume several of the rights and responsibilities that normally fall on the parents.

Yes. The school is responsible for their safety and whereabouts. US K-12 public schools, if the child is missing from school, parents are contacted immediately. Teachers are responsible for attendance. All this is accomplished without device tracking. Federal law explicitly defines the school's responsibilities with regard to privacy rights of children in school. If parents wish to contact their child during school hours, they are asked to call the school, and school personnel will contact the child.

Device use is an enormous problem in schools. Talk to any teacher / admin: they will tell you allowing devices into schools has been a disaster.


>US K-12 public schools, if the child is missing from school, parents are contacted immediately.

The US is definitely the world, and I am definitely in that world, and the people who make that assumption are definitely super smart all around.


>Quite sure that is the schools job. At least where I live the schools tend to assume several of the rights and responsibilities that normally fall on the parents.

whoops, you got me - I live where you live too so your argument is like really super good.

>> or monitoring more closely a child that has done improper things.

>Do I want to know what you fucked up in your childhood that you assume your kids need constant monitoring to prevent a repeat?

Do I want to know what was done to you in your childhood that you uh, whatever that was?

on edit: fixed grammar




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