I wonder if the end-game is a BSD, or some sort of hard fork of the Linux ecosystem.
Ubuntu and RedHat basically don’t work by any of my definitions of “work”.
They’re both enterprisey and bloated and flaky in all the ways Windows was in the 90’s, except they add flatpack/snap, letting each program be its own flaky OS install, compounding the problem. Want to save a file to ~? Read this 1000 page tome on the 21 successors to SEL first.
Anyway, my current heuristic is that if it defaults to systemd or wayland, then I don’t want to use it.
Debian was never the default for big sprawling corporations, so it’s not clear to me that just staying on the “suckless ethos” side of such an ecosystem fork would be that bad vs. Linux in its previous heyday.
Perhaps that is the end game for you. My intent isn’t to say this to stir heated discussion but people have different opinions on flatpak and snap, in fact I even like snap besides the fact that you have to use snap’s store (you can’t just start your own snap repository and configure your local snapd to install from it.) No complaints with systemd, and you can still easily swap to Xorg. No idea what you’re referring to with the trouble of saving a file to ~, perhaps that’s a RHEL thing (it’s been so long since I’ve used RHEL.)
All in all, my intent is mostly just to say we’re not in consensus. I doubt a massive revolution is coming if your assumption is that it is because there’s some overwhelming majority with your opinions.
Personally, I like the ideas of Fuschia OS but it's a long ways off from a general purpose OS. Still usable today, though, if you are willing to build the userland stuff you need yourself. Not a fan of Google, though. meh.
https://fuchsia.dev/
Ubuntu and RedHat basically don’t work by any of my definitions of “work”.
They’re both enterprisey and bloated and flaky in all the ways Windows was in the 90’s, except they add flatpack/snap, letting each program be its own flaky OS install, compounding the problem. Want to save a file to ~? Read this 1000 page tome on the 21 successors to SEL first.
Anyway, my current heuristic is that if it defaults to systemd or wayland, then I don’t want to use it.
Debian was never the default for big sprawling corporations, so it’s not clear to me that just staying on the “suckless ethos” side of such an ecosystem fork would be that bad vs. Linux in its previous heyday.