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Don't know what we're talking about here tho :

- Lifting for fitness/looks - 100% agree - best bang for buck for self-improvement, and as you say it's about sustained incremental progress that translates well to other things.

- Rec PED use - health risks, illegal substances (not that big of a deal in terms of use, but since you can't get it legally you're basically injecting yourself with shit that's been mixed in some dudes bathroom), further downsides once you get off. This one highly depends on what you want.

- Bodybuilding as a competitive thing - here you'll get nowhere without genetics

In context of Arnolds success I'm talking about the last definition, where his success in competitive BB lead to other opportunities.



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