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I was thinking about this recently, and came up with two possible reasons:

1. The enjoyment of attendees can be partly dependent on the enthusiasm of other attendees. Consider the extremes: an audience entirely comprised of people who hardly know the artist, but can afford it Vs an audience comprised of only die-hard fans, irrespective of their ability to afford a ticket. The first has a flat atmosphere, the second, a special one.

2. A simple desire by the artist to make their show available to a cross-section of society (this could be viewed as altruistic, since most other products/services don't usually offer the same thing at a lower price just to help those who can't afford it).

A possible solution to problem 1: If the goal is to ensure that only die-hard fans get the tickets, why not use their spotify/apple music/other histories to work out who's really a fan of that artist? It should be trivial to get a very high degree of accuracy, and would be costly for scalpers to imitate (they'd need a subscription and to listen to random music years in advance).



Guess if you don't use a streaming music service you're SOL seeing an artist you look. This is such a Hacker News suggestion.


Also I suspect that it would be trivially easy to script your client to open up spotify and play a never ending stream of Taylor Swift, dumping the audio to /dev/null, and to have multiple tabs playing other popular artists using other accounts, so that at least one account always looked like a superfan.


Alas, every metric that isn’t “paying more money” can be horrendously gamed and corrupted. This is why despite all its flaws, the “price signal” is still the tried and true “least bad way to allocate scarce resources” for most cases.


> This is such a Hacker News suggestion.

Also the fact that it's assumed that everyone attending wants to sit in the audience and go crazy and MAKE SOME NOISE. It can and is annoying to many people.

One other thing is artist may want an active crowd for their own benefit ie they are making a video live recording for further sale or to post to youtube whatever. (Point is good for artist but not for many all of those attending).


It’s really disturbing to pass a value judgement about what kind of fans are more desirable than others, and social-engineering it into the pricing structure.


If some idea is 99% ok, then it's really HN-like to burn it down because of the 1% that's possibly not ok.

As if everything in our society is 100% ok.


This is also a very Hacker News-esq comment to think 1% of people are consuming music via means other than streaming services.


> The enjoyment of attendees can be partly dependent on the enthusiasm of other attendees. Consider the extremes: an audience entirely comprised of people who hardly know the artist, but can afford it Vs an audience comprised of only die-hard fans, irrespective of their ability to afford a ticket. The first has a flat atmosphere, the second, a special one.

Higher ticket prices would lead to more diehard fans

> A simple desire by the artist to make their show available to a cross-section of society

But if scalping is a problem then making tickets cheap doesn’t accomplish this.

In total, this seems to point towards raising initial prices with negative consequence.


> Higher ticket prices would lead to more diehard fans

no? personal utility doesn't work that way in the real world... We have such drastic inequality that $200 is literally impossible for a huge fraction of the population wheras to some people its an afterthought to spend for a laugh. You can literally notice it in a venue when ticket prices are higher, the atmosphere is different, the clothing is different, the energy of the dancing, the singing

profile of somebody with money to spend: 40+, knowledge worker, drained of energy, has a lot of things going on in life

profile of the kind of fan that makes your show trendy: <30, sporadic employment, excess energy, impulsive, carefree




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