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> Java I would still call verbose, it's more verbosity than I tolerated when I was greener but I have come to appreciate a certain amount of ceremony isn't necessarily bad - if it helps to efficiently communicate the intent of the programmer.

In my experience the trick with Java is to use a purpose built editor like Eclipse or IntelliJ. Once you've achieved competence with an appropriate tool the syntax kind of fades from your attention and you focus on the important parts. Kind of like how experienced Lispers using an appropriate editing mode don't really pay much attention to the parentheses.



100% agree.

It was tough coming from a VIM only workflow to IntelliJ but I am really glad I toughed out the transition.

The power is in how all the tooling comes together but it requires a certain investment to get there.




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