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You sir, have clearly never met us special forces. A “couple hundred” with combat load would be an absolute force to be reckoned with.


Is there any reason this would be more possible with a rocket than with, say, a plane? It has to land slow enough that the passengers survive, and during that process it can be spotted and shot down, or surrounded.

I mean I’m definitely in favor of getting some sci-fi style orbital drop troops, but I think it will require some development beyond the rockets; we’ll need to figure out how to get people who can survive a bunch of extra G’s.


A human being can withstand ~8g's for medium short duration with minimal accommodation, say tens of minutes - see fighter pilots. I would imagine that would be enough to get someone on the ground pretty quickly. 30 minutes door-to-door is also incredibly fast, how much of the world could be covered by AA or a fighter plane in time?

As a for instance, imagine if in the initial invasion of Ukraine Russia had the capability to drop a starship heavy's worth of men and supplies onto Antonov airport as soon as it was secure, instead of waiting for transport planes that didn't arrive in time.


You don't need the whole world to be covered. There is no point dropping special forces into the middle of nowhere. The air force can certainly respond within minutes to threats to major cities and strategic targets.

A starship wouldn't have made that much difference in the invasion of Ukraine. You're talking maybe two additional MBTs.


>There is no point dropping special forces into the middle of nowhere

Most of everywhere is the middle of nowhere and almost everything behind the lines is poorly guarded[0]. The vast vast majority of military strategy relies on two basic facts: things are far apart from each other[1] and one needs to move through another place to get to where one is going[2]. Ballistic transport gets around both of these limitations, which is why it is going to happen, costs be damned. Maybe it'll be drones getting dropped, or bombs, instead of people, but it'll be done nonetheless.

I don't know if you've ever played bughouse - but the timely application of even small amounts of resources can have a drastically outsized effect. A starship could have easily doubled the resources the Russians had to take that airport, a few more could have taken another while everyone was busy with the first.

[0]Because those resources are better spend on/near the line.

[1]Lines vs. back-lines vs. civilian areas, conventional logistics and its demands

[2]Walls, trenches, emplacements, AA defenses


Beijing is defended by two guards divisions. Who get woken up once it is determined that Beijing is the target and move into position.

Special forces are not very good against good regular troops. Special forces are really good light infantry. Regular troops have heavy weapons. Armored regiments have tanks. Mechanized infantry shows up with IFVs and troops.


The whole scenario would be like black hawk down ... but with less survivors.


Special Forces aren't great in head-to-head combat against well-equipped and well-supplied soldiers who know they're coming. They lose their advantage. Plus they would need a whole lot of resupply.


It's a preposterous scenario. China would blow the thing out of the sky long before it could land. And even if it did, they'd simply use armor and helicopters to decimate the forces.


If they have a predictable landing in a big clearing they are gonna be in a tough spot regardless of how capable they are.


Drop them with armored transport near a supply line and it could work if you have already done SEAD.




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