Hey Depot peeps, I like the idea of faster builds, but that's not what I really need. I need easier builds.
Making a simple container with a simple app is easy. The devil's in the details. What if you want to pull from a private registry using temporary credentials tied to a specific user, then use different temporary credentials during the build to pull packages from a different private package repository, persist the package cache across different container builds, then push the images to a different remote registry with more temporary credentials, with multi-stage builds, without capturing secrets in the container or persisting environment variables or files specific to the credentials?
Now what if you wanted to do all that in a random K8s pod?
Yes, of course there are ways to do this, I've pretty much done it all. But I've spent a huge amount of time to figure out each and every step. I've seen dozens of people take the same amount of time to figure it all out, often taking years to truly gather up all the knowledge. You know what would be great? If I didn't have to do that. If somebody just said "Here, Product X does everything you will ever want. The docs explain everything. Now you have 600 hours of your life back.", I would say Take. My. Money. I don't even necessarily need a product, if someone could just write down how to do it, so I don't have to bang my shins for days to get one thing to work.
Fast builds are nice because I can run more builds, but easier builds are nicer because more people can work on containers faster.
Sounds like you have some very complex, niche requirements. Perhaps paying an experienced human is the best solution (sleepless nights included), instead of laying yet more technical complexity on top.
Making a simple container with a simple app is easy. The devil's in the details. What if you want to pull from a private registry using temporary credentials tied to a specific user, then use different temporary credentials during the build to pull packages from a different private package repository, persist the package cache across different container builds, then push the images to a different remote registry with more temporary credentials, with multi-stage builds, without capturing secrets in the container or persisting environment variables or files specific to the credentials?
Now what if you wanted to do all that in a random K8s pod?
Yes, of course there are ways to do this, I've pretty much done it all. But I've spent a huge amount of time to figure out each and every step. I've seen dozens of people take the same amount of time to figure it all out, often taking years to truly gather up all the knowledge. You know what would be great? If I didn't have to do that. If somebody just said "Here, Product X does everything you will ever want. The docs explain everything. Now you have 600 hours of your life back.", I would say Take. My. Money. I don't even necessarily need a product, if someone could just write down how to do it, so I don't have to bang my shins for days to get one thing to work.
Fast builds are nice because I can run more builds, but easier builds are nicer because more people can work on containers faster.