yeah, because you want to use the internal speaker while watching the video on a projector screen ...

I understand what you are saying, and it sucks indeed, but there are other systems that have exactly the same 'problem' and in real life this is a problem for the minority of people. apple sells to the masses, and they will do what the majority of the people want/need/use. Sure, it sux if you dont fit in that group, but that has been the thing with most big vendors of things.

The internal speakers on my iPad Pro blow away any small sized Bluetooth speaker I have laying around.

What is the use case for an iPad Pro? To be used by professionals as a _portable laptop_. Presentations are probably one of the top use cases and Apple can’t even get it right.

If the iPad Pro is yet another consumption device then remove the bullshit pro moniker and just sell iPads.

Where is it written that a tablet is the same as a portable laptop? iPad Pro not designed as portable presentation tool, it's designed to be a portable touch-enabled apple device that can be used for creative workflows.

The presentation setup, in apple's view, is an appletv connected to a tv and one or more HomePods for the audio. and you can use an iPad or iPhone or MacBook to cast to the screen+audio.

Like I said before, it sux if you dont fit into this group (which is the masses) but they are not alone in focussing just on the masses

> Where is it written that a tablet is the same as a portable laptop? iPad Pro not designed as portable presentation tool, it's designed to be a portable touch-enabled apple device that can be used for creative workflows.

Now you’re putting words in my mouth and appearing dense. I never said it was the _same_ as a laptop. I said it’s used similarly.

I have never once seen someone being “creative” on their iPad in a public setting. If you are correct and that is the use case for the masses we should see it being used as such everywhere. It is not.

The only thing I can say is that we are in different parts of the world. Around me, a lot of people use the iPad to do drawings, animation, audio and video editing where a laptop or workstation is simply not possible because there's no desks / infrastructure to connect/power/store those products.

The macbooks are indeed used more by developers, but as soon as you get into the more 'creative' areas, the iPad + pencil for those kind of things wins big time.

> Around me

As I said in another reply if you were forthcoming with the fact that you are basing your opinion in a vacuum (your environment) we most likely would have not went in circles. Instead you claimed “the masses” when in fact your area is a tiny percentage of iPad users worldwide.

It's a problem for anyone trying to give a presentation in an educational or office environment - local sound solutions on projectors in small offices and small classrooms are often (probably 70% of the time in my experience) non functional.

iPad speakers in a classroom is not going to cut it, they are nowhere near powerful enough. in an office environment you can use the tv audio, or the video conferencing unit (in my experience even a 10man shop has those). again, for the very small percentage of people that fall outside of the 'masses' it is a problem, and I totally understand that. But none of the big brands care about the use cases that are not the masses. So you can blame apple, but look around and blame all the others as well.

Small and some medium-sized classrooms it absolutely does cut it. If you're playing for a theatre-sized college classroom of course it wouldn't.

But also, why does that matter? If the speakers don't work (i.e. cannot be engaged while connected to a projector) but won't cut it for the classroom, why is that better than if they can work but aren't loud enough? At least in the latter situation the user has the option and can make a human judgment. The user is a hell of a lot more qualified in that situation than some dev/PM at Apple who thinks they always know better than the user.

You are right, and like I said, it for sure is bad that it wont work for the common use case. Should it support your use case? YES! Does it? no. Is there some kind of fair explanation? also Yes. Wether you like it or not (and to be clear, I also dont like it, but at least I can understand why)

The iPad Pro has 4 speakers.

You seem so matter of fact with your opinion.

How big is the classroom in your mind?

Video conferencing units like you bring up most of the time need separate drivers, or an app to connect.

Should I have all these different teleconferencing apps on my iPad in case I show up to a client that uses xyz model?

What happened to apple’s “it just works”

Yes, as I tried to make clear in my post I'm replying based on my experience, which is based on the area I live and work in. Almost all of the places I went have Logitech video conferencing gear, which dont need a single driver or minute of setup, as they simply JustWork (either with Mac, linux or windows)

> I'm replying based on my experience, which is based on the area I live and work in.

Funny how you didn’t explicitly state that when referring to the use case of “the masses”.

The masses are just the people in your local environment?

Seems like you’re backtracking.