> I would like to apologize to Halli for my misunderstanding of his situation. It was based on things I was told that were untrue or, in some cases, true, but not meaningful.
It's a half apology; Musk is shifting blame to someone else who told him "untrue things". He's not taking much personal responsibility for his failure to 1) act in good faith starting with assuming positive intent and 2) verify information himself before flying off the rails and going ape shit on someone with several orders of magnitude less power than himself.
It's about average for an apology from a ego-maniacal narcissist.
What a fragile ego with this one. I make varying degrees of mistakes everyday, it's an inherent part of the human experience. I appreciate the opportunities I receive to get feedback and take accountability so I can let people know that I truly do care about them, and also improve myself over time so I'm at least not making the same mistakes in an endless shitshow loop.
It doesn't have to be a big deal, though to be fair, I do have other sensitivities that are more challenging for me personally to address and make progress on.
Edit: @toomuchtodo, my HN good buddy, why'd you delete your reply? You nailed it.
> toomuchtodo replied to your comment [link]:
> That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
> Among the more notable layoffs in this round were founders of companies that Twitter had acquired under its previous owners. Haraldur Thorleifsson, Martijn de Kuijper, Leah Culver, and Esther Crawford had previously been on a “do not fire” list, because it was going to be so expensive to pay them out: as part of their compensation packages, the founders had accelerated stock vesting. All four were cut over the weekend.
Insofar as one can "apologize" on behalf of someone else, anyway. Elon is deprecating about Twitter's performance because he attributes it to the prior regime.
My guess is that his own lawyers probably told him that he needed to immediately start trying to undo the damage.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he could personally be sued and personally held liable, and it would be super great if an actual lawyer could comment on that :)
I have no doubt it's a lesson he won't be applying broadly. There are lots of very sloppy communications in Tesla, particularly. Frankly, I'm betting the reason that the manual was turned into HTML was so that no one would be inclined to read about the cars' instructions in one go -- and find out how many mistakes there are in it. This isn't just an English as a second language problem -- its a problem that permeates the entirety of Tesla.
I can only assume that this is some kind of lawyer insisted response. It isn’t even a real apology, instead offloading responsibility on some nebulous other source.
Here’s the thing though, who cares who told you that someone was faking it: at what point is acceptable to publicize medical information you required an employee to provide? And that is required to be confidential?
What kind of amoral shithead do you have to be to think that kind of behavior is ever ok?
I felt my original comment was substantative. I received feedback from you that you disagreed. I changed it to elaborate on my original comment and make it more substantive, based on your feedback.
This feels like a no-win situation for me. It also feels pretty arbitrary. Comments like this
isn't hidden nor modded down, but it's far lower effort and not hidden. I've seen anti-Semitic posts not get hidden. Your comment felt really out of left field.
You told me my comment wasn't up to standard, so I changed it, which I guess I wasn't supposed to do. Sorry
You're right that HN moderation is inconsistent. To be consistent we would have to read everything, and we can't do that—not even close—there's just far too much content here. So when you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it [1]. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.
I agree with you about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35059060 and have flagged it and posted a scolding. As for anti-Semitic comments, I've personally banned plenty of accounts for posting like that. HN doesn't get a lot of it, but it does get some; any fringe view is going to show up at least somewhat on any sufficiently large open internet forum.
As for your edit - it was a good edit in principle! But it left my moderation reply looking pointless and stupid, and that got me irritated. Anyone who came along later would look at that and think the mod was being an asshole.
I'm sorry if my irritation came across—I try not to let it, but not always successfully!
It's a half apology; Musk is shifting blame to someone else who told him "untrue things". He's not taking much personal responsibility for his failure to 1) act in good faith starting with assuming positive intent and 2) verify information himself before flying off the rails and going ape shit on someone with several orders of magnitude less power than himself.
It's about average for an apology from a ego-maniacal narcissist.
What a fragile ego with this one. I make varying degrees of mistakes everyday, it's an inherent part of the human experience. I appreciate the opportunities I receive to get feedback and take accountability so I can let people know that I truly do care about them, and also improve myself over time so I'm at least not making the same mistakes in an endless shitshow loop.
It doesn't have to be a big deal, though to be fair, I do have other sensitivities that are more challenging for me personally to address and make progress on.
Edit: @toomuchtodo, my HN good buddy, why'd you delete your reply? You nailed it.
> toomuchtodo replied to your comment [link]:
> That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
Edit 2: But I like giving you the credit! Cheers