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I couldn't afford to buy myself the t25, always wondered if it was worth the money. sounds like it was!


It depends.

On the surface, not at all. It's a t470 with a massive marketing spiel.

On the other hand, if you spend 10hrs a day on a laptop, you'll keep it for many years, and keyboard layout is important to you, it may be a worthile choice priced per hour of usage. You can also think of it as pre-moded and warrantied thinkPad :-).

I have a couple of t480 and e595 around too but much prefer the t25. I also have a client mandated HP that, while it does have a track point, has an apple-style format and keyboard that drives me up the wall. Non-sensical unique layout, no feel in keys, plus dreaded combined up and down arrows (WHY?? There's so much room on that side! So clearly a choice of pretty over useful/functional. The t25 arrow keys extend down past space key, so they are full size, which neatly demonstrates their priority aligns with mine :)


You spend 10 hours each day out of office/house? Seems like problem easily solvable by external keyboard (you can keep same one at home and at office), that's what I do. I have T520 (specifically bought originally for keyboard instead newer models) and hooked up wireless full size keyboard, mouse and 32" external display since msot of the time I work from home, if I travel I just take wireless mouse with me.


Agreed; I do have the Microsoft Skulpt keyboards for both client HP and my T25 laptop (plus monitors on stands etc).

But... life! :). Two very young kids and wife who need support through the day, so I end up using laptop as a lap-top frequently enough :). I take my dad to a doctor appointment, or work from friend's home, etc etc. Overall, laptop's keyboard is still important for my personal use-cases.


Is it possible to put the t25 keyboard into a t470 or t480?


Here are details of how someone put together a t480 with the t25 keyboard. It's an expensive project:

https://www.xyte.ch/mods/t25-frankenpad/


Not sure. I've heard before there's a slight plastic piece you may need to dremel. It IS a bigger keyboard / differently shaped, just looking at my T25 sitting next to my T480. As well, sourcing T25 keyboard in the first place may not be trivial - it was a very limited run model.

Some historical discussion on the topic:

https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=125246




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