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‘I’m selling my blood’: millions in US can’t make ends meet with two jobs (theguardian.com)
40 points by ArtemZ on Nov 17, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 28 comments


It's especially bad when put into context that America is the richest country by far on the planet, yet wealth distribution is extremely out of whack and we allow such conditions to even exist in this country.

People struggle and many don't know it needn't be so difficult, even at the 'bottom'. Sadly, most Americans have no idea just how far off things are, as indicated in this 2011 study: https://jeremiahstanghini.com/2013/03/06/perception-vs-reali...

I worry about the instability this causes, both economically and politically, as extreme wealth (and power) continues to concentrate in few hands while so many fall down the class ladder.


In a former role, leadership and HR shut down a division meeting after anonymous polls were presented showing how many full time employees were selling plasma, had one or more additional jobs working at least 20 hours a week, were unable meet their retirement targets, and showed real incomes after inflation based on hire year. Almost every employee hired after a certain date lost money while in their role, inversely correlated to profits and expansion of executive roles and compensation.


This one is really an example of the US having a 3rd world safety net. No matter how much that worker makes, her partner can have more uncovered medical costs.


> This one is really an example of the US having a 3rd world safety net

You are grossly under-estimating the safety net in 3rd world countries. While overall everyone might be poor in terms of $-terms, but there is a strong culture of helping each other out. That doesn't exist to the same extent in US.


Isnt the UK struggling with poverty as well? Which first-world nations provide good QOL's without taking on multiple jobs while working for near-minimum wage? I understand a lot of the problem is companies not paying their fair share. Its an honest question though because I've thought about moving to more socialized country in the past but wouldn't know where best to go. And tbh it's not in the north american continent.


Almost all EU countries have a good social system with a universal medical coverage, some unemployment benefits, a minimum wage, and retirement. But it seems that even Canada is far from being as bad as the US.


The UK is likely to hit a depression soon.


But that's because they don't have enough cheap workers, which they were used to source from EU. Now they need to hire British ones (and they don't have enough of them), who want higher wages than EU ones, which drives inflation up.


This has nothing to do with cost of labor but rather poor management, particularly from Sunak's time as chancellor.


Obviously grim, but even on the high end of the statistic in the article, ~7M people working themselves to death at the bottom of the economy, out of 164M people working... is terrible, but not exactly true for everyone?


Who says "everyone"? The headline is "millions"


That's fair, just that it implies a kind of overall meltdown that saying "1 in 20 working people can't make enough to live" doesn't. Not to downplay how crappy it is for people in that situation.


I don't think I agree to be honest. If you know more than 20 people, that still sounds bad.

Might make a difference if you have no idea how many people live in the USA I suppose.


I remember reading about people crossing the border to sell plasma for money over a decade ago. This isn't anything new. America is a meat grinder, and, increasingly, I'm glad I don't live there.


I remember selling plasma before school for lunch money back in highschool - the saline made you so cold in the worst way. Also glad I no longer live there.


Agree. I was offered a green card and a 6 digit salary to move to the US. I declined and instead moved to Australia. One of my best decisions ever.


Where do you live then?


Australia


“was previously fired from her job for sleeping in her car behind her place of employment.”

The cruelty of managers never stops surprising me. As long as she is doing her job and is presentable etc. what’s the problem? Worst case just ask her to park her car somewhere else?


How would one go about selling their blood?


In the form of value-added culinary products :)

https://web.archive.org/web/20080927205444/https://www.daily...


Whoa, this is a crazy story.

Submitted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33647767


plasma more likely, but lots of places like https://www.cslplasma.com/


And yet some can't sell plasma, like my son who's on anti-anxiety and anti-depression medication. They won't take his blood.


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Last time I checked, USA have predominantly privately owned companies. So if people are not earning enough then it is kind of a problem between employee and employer.


Yeah, let them eat cake i guess?


Isn't it always a problem between employee and employer? Yet employers continue to refuse to pay a living wage. The employee can't always just up and leave for a better job.


US politicians were elected by the masses to protect labor rights and stop worker exploitation by raising the min. wage, etc...they choose not to for decades.




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