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Keep in mind that not everyone pays taxes on capital gains. People with a lot of appreciated stock can simply borrow using the stock as collateral, and not pay a single penny in capital gains. Depending on the entity that owns the stock, the interest on the loan might even be deductible.


I hear a lot about that, but in reality it makes no sense. At some point in time the loan needs to be repaid and equity sold which carries a tax burden.

You could "step up" the basis when you die, but I find it hard to believe some billionaire would roll over debt for 30+ years, pay 200-300% in interest, just to avoid 20% long-term capital gains?

I read a lot of conjecture about how this happens and many people said Musk did this, yet he paid $500M in taxes last year?!?


> I find it hard to believe some billionaire would roll over debt

Plenty of rich individuals do exactly that, though. Hang out in any retirement/investing forum and you see people doing the cold hard math and deciding not to sell the stock and pay taxes if the step-up basis is enough.


Your math is off. The 200-300% interest doesn't matter if the return on your capital is greater than the interest rate.


Who can guarantee a return on capital?

Tech stocks are down 50-75% now. You think it was smarter to borrow money against that equity rather than sell and pay taxes?

Like I said, it's all theoretical, yet no one has actually shown me numbers that makes sense.

Delay selling equity? Sure? Delay it until you are dead? No way (unless you're within a few years of dying).


You don't even need a significant return on capital for the strategy to pay off, it just has to slightly beat the interest on the loan over a very long time horizon. Consider these numbers: $100 million subject to capital gains, $10 million in cash needed for expenses, a 2% interest rate, a 2.5% return on investment, a 20% capital gains tax, and a 10 year timeframe.

The borrowing strategy starts with $100 million and a $10 million loan, and ends up with $128 million and a $12.2 million loan, so net $115.6 million (and the interest is likely tax deductible).

The taxpaying strategy starts with $88 million and ends up with $112.65 million.


Over what time period? And you’re ignoring interest rate and equity return risk.

It’s pointless to do unless you can do it until you’re dead so capital gain tax is actually reduced.

Otherwise you’re just deferring the tax. Which has value, but isn’t avoid tax.




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