I’m a musician and Indie Shuffle was my first “break.”

It gave about 20,000 plays which BLEW MY MIND at the time. Nothing like waking up to a huge increase

Today I’m a modest success. Several songs have 1-2m plays on Spotify and I make $800 / month from streaming. It’s just something I do in my evenings for fun.

I owe my success to outlets Indie Shuffle and SubmitHub—- I’ve found Spotify really privileges discovery for major label artists.

I appreciate the counter-take — it seems like almost every take I read on the modern music business is coming from people who don't actually know what the reality on the ground is.

And gd submithub is awesome, I have been sucked right in, making submissions, buying credits, rating songs. It's taken up my whole morning, well done!

Sounds like a perfectly fine mismatch between proper bootstrapping and the mindset of growing investment fueled by some hypothetical value proposition.

Is submithub what I think I am seeing? Basically a solution to a spam problem by offering a channel that requires the equivalent of stamps so that senders rate-limit themselves, focusing a bit more on quality over quantity? If that's not a complete misperception I like it very much, great niche-spotting!

Not far off :)

What I thought "Discovery" was is finding new music given some other music preferences - like Spotify's curated playlists or Song Radios. Submithub doesn't fit that to me - it's more like a social network (and I guess you make your money the same way, via advertising).

Could you add Airplay to your Indie Shuffle app?

I kinda thought it already worked?