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FLoC has nothing to do with rendering, though.

Mozilla existing (and shipping spyware, just like Chrome) doesn't really do anything to stop any of that.



it's not "just like Chrome". It's not great, but it's not in the same ballpark as what Google does.


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I'm unfamiliar with what you're speaking of. Can you elaborate?


He is talking about when Mozilla made Firefox send the browsing history of randomly selected German users to a company they had invested in, Cliqz. That is the by far biggest ethical violation of Mozilla and which, justifiably, still haunts them. That said both Chrome and Edge are worse.


Nope, I'm talking about the telemetry that still exists in current Firefox that you can download worldwide today.


Telemetry doesn't contain browsing activity.


It doesn't contain browsing URL history. It absolutely contains browsing activity.


Because this is overly broad and paints Mozilla in an unfairly bad light compared to how inconsequential this event was, here are the actual facts: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/74yo19/cliqz_and_m...

1% of german users had anonymised data sent over.


Browsing history is something which is very easy to deanionymize so I do not buy that defence. What they did was inexcusable, but again both Microsoft and Google are more evil. I run Firefox, but only as the lesser evil.

Edit: 1% is 1% too many if you have a company which claims to care about the privacy of their users. Especially since browsing history is very sensitive and easy to deanonymize.


Firefox has a bunch of telemetry enabled by default that phones home usage information to Mozilla without consent.


At what point does firefox silently upload history?


They did so in secret for their German users until they were caught red handed and had to stop doing so due to the public backlash. They lost millions of users in Germany due to that.

That said Google and Microft both keep collecting your data despite backlash while Mozilla stopped once caught.


This is interesting, source?


He is most likely talking about the Cliqz scandal which in my opinion was really unethical. but it pales in comparison to what Google does every day.




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