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>Maybe I’m missing something. I’m open to new ideas here but I really don’t get it.

Is the concept of "it would take 3 hours one way to commute to work which isn't done remotely" really that hard to grasp?

Or is the concept of relocation being difficult, costing a lot of money, and sometimes not feasible because it means other family members losing jobs too hard to get?

I'm not even getting into the completely ephemeral ideas, like being priced out of the city you grew up in and have family + social connections in. The two above would be a good place to start.



I still say relocate. There’s literally not another option and that’s what I would do.

The alternative is what? Struggle and live in your car for years hoping that state legislation will magically build enough affordable units?

You can’t always legislate every problem away. Life is hard and filled with struggle. I do not buy the idea that anyone is entitled to live anywhere and be able to afford rent and have a short commute. We may as well just ask for a utopia.


>The alternative is what?

Sharing your living space with a dozen people. Either family or random roommates.

What kind of economic background do you have to be asking this kind of question?

> I do not buy the idea that anyone is entitled to live anywhere and be able to afford rent and have a short commute.

I don't buy the idea that anyone is entitled to enjoy the benefits of essential infrastructure (which includes groceries, deliveries, restaurants, stores, etc) if it requires the people that power it to spend hours each day in commute.

>We may as well just ask for a utopia.

High-density, mixed use walkable neighborhoods aren't "utopia", it's how the cities always have been. Suburban cars-first developments and residential-only zoning are not some sort of natural order.

Speaking of cars, without tax-funded highways, the suburban sprawl would not exist.

NYC is far from utopia, but you can rent a studio today within 8 miles of Wall Street for $1400, in a safe neighborhood, next to public transit that will get you there in under an hour, with groceries and restaurants and stores in walking distance.

>Life is hard and filled with struggle

And this is a justification for what exactly?




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