As much as I dislike smoking or obesity, those aren't the main causes of climate change. If we eliminated both of those entirely, today, we'd still have a crisis.
That being said, I'll absolutely agree with the sentiment that "humans will always be human". We're not going to collectively try to fix this until it's too late. That's the saddest part.
Are you suggesting the average American got fat off environmentally friendly low-carbon-impact food products? Because I suspect they got fat off Oreos and Coca-Cola.
> I'm suggesting exactly what I said. Would you like me to repeat it?
You're being aggressive and condescending for no reason. To quote you, "I thought HN was better than this."
> When beef has the 30x the environmental impact of plant based food per calorie, it would be hard to make the statement that fat people are automatically to blame for climate change.
This isn't what anybody suggested. As obesity rises, people eat more, creating the food to sustain those people causes a greater environmental impact. If more people drive cars, we need more gas, right?
> The whole argument is just completely ignorant on its face.
You're angry for no reason.
> Dispute what I said instead of making glib replies.
Done.
> Do you think every calorie has the same environmental impact? No? Because OF COURSE NOT. So what are you even disagreeing with?
More net calories is more net carbon. Basic math, friend.
That being said, I'll absolutely agree with the sentiment that "humans will always be human". We're not going to collectively try to fix this until it's too late. That's the saddest part.