Being proud of being Scottish, or Norwegian, or Irish or whatever is great. Nothing wrong with being proud of your roots.
But being proud of having white skin specifically without any other context is... odd.
Conversely black people in America do have a common cultural context binding them regardless of what specific culture their forebearers were originally taken from - they all came from ancestors in slavery, they all share a common cultural understanding of being in America because of this.
This is why black pride (and Colombian pride) is okay, and white pride is not.
> Conversely black people in America do have a common cultural context binding them regardless of what specific culture their forebearers were originally taken from - they all came from ancestors in slavery, they all share a common cultural understanding of being in America because of this.
Besides being flat out wrong, this is just condescending. Have you never heard of Barack Obama? Did it not occur to you that there have been many, many people who immigrated to the US from Africa since 1865?
There is currently a large debate in the African American community regarding the identity of American Descendants of Slavery compared to African immigrants.
Personally I think it’s a dumb thing to be proud of. But saying a group of people can’t do something because of their skin color is the definition of racism. These double standards have to stop if we want healthy race relations.
>But saying a group of people can’t do something because of their skin color is the definition of racism.
That's a terrible definition of racism. Easy example, saying I can't stay outside for long periods because of my skin color is obviously not racism.
In general, racism requires an idea that one race is superior, a sentiment arguably more apparent of being proud that you're white than being proud that you are not.
When other people say someone can’t do something because of their skin color, that is racism. The idea that whites are more racist than other races is also racist. It’s an idea not based on facts but on feelings.
>When other people say someone can’t do something because of their skin color, that is racism.
Still a terrible definition, someone telling me my previous example doesn't turn it racist either.
>The idea that whites are more racist than other races is also racist
The idea that whites have used racism as an excuse to exploit people over the past few hundred years is a fact. Nobody would care about who has more innate feelings of racial superior that they didn't act on.
You can only be proud of your race if your great-great-great-great-great grandparents were in circumstances outside of their control?
The Chinese were nearly universally oppressed by Imperial Japan before/during WW2. Later, they nearly universally suffered some level of starvation under the reign of Mao. As far as the oppression Olympics goes, I’d say the Chinese are ahead of the blacks.
Maybe playing oppression Olympics is just a bad idea in general though. I’m not sure.
I don't think you quite understood what I was saying, reread the first sentence. You can be proud of coming from any culture, China included. I just can't fathom any reason other than racism for being proud of just your skin color.
But being proud of having white skin specifically without any other context is... odd.
Conversely black people in America do have a common cultural context binding them regardless of what specific culture their forebearers were originally taken from - they all came from ancestors in slavery, they all share a common cultural understanding of being in America because of this.
This is why black pride (and Colombian pride) is okay, and white pride is not.