I think this is great news, and I hope other states will follow. But it's a bit troublesome that it took a wealthy executive to get this anywhere politically, even after years of safe-use research and its prevalence as medical treatments:
> David Bronner, the top executive at Dr. Bronner’s soap company, helped bankroll the campaign, which had to overcome pandemic restrictions to gather signatures and get on the ballot last fall.
> David Bronner, the top executive at Dr. Bronner’s soap company
He might be a wealthy executive, but, you're going to have an extraordinarily hard time convincing me that he's anything but the exact opposite of the caricature of a "wealthy executive"
Dr. Bronner’s is an amazing company with an amazing product.
They also source some of their oil from a small fair trade olive producing cooperative in palestine[1] which I was fortunate enough to visit in 2019. The people there couldn't say enough about how Dr Bronners had saved their coop and the Palestinian olive industry. Amazing people all around and the smells of a olive oil factory producing fresh olive oil are burned into my brain now!
A bunch of Dr. Bronners employees, if not management and ownereship, also active as part of the Southern California burner community. They show up at local festivals with sometimes the only public shower available -- its a huge, fully-nude group shower with a dance floor and a large, transparent plexiglass trailer, where they hose down like 100 people at a time from an overhead balcony. It's a lot of fun for anyone brave enough to bare it all!
It's funny -- they used to leave Dr. Bronners branding around (it was pretty subtle though) and were happy to let you try out their soaps, which is supposedly a faux pas in the burner crowd ... but they were so well-loved by the community that it was the only large camp that was allowed to get away with it. More recently the local burner festival banned any commercial expression, and they still showed up, completely revamped to remove any trace of Dr. Bronners, even if it was the same setup with the same soap.
TBH I am not the biggest fan of their soaps but I have an immense amount of respect for the company, as their presence and its contradictions really add to the overall vibe.
There was a whole fad of anti-marketing marketing for a while. Burt's Bees pushed that hard for a long time (and they are actually VERY corporate...there is a docu basically all about how the actual Burt got screwed in the whole deal)
Very corporate? Because they want to...make money, like companies are supposed to? Burt sold his rights to the product, including the usage of his name. As the documentary details, the fact that the company elected to basically keep him around out of good-will (is that how they screwed him?) doesn’t serve your point at all.
Making money is always just one of many motivations for company founders, company operators and company employees. Reducing the purpose of a company to a single motivation is unhealthy for all involved.
Perhaps you didn’t read my comment: Burt’s Bees, the company, kept Burt around even when they didn’t have to. The OP argued that it was about the single motivation of money, and I offered up the evidence that it clearly wasn’t all about money, considering they then employed and recognized Burt for his contribution to the product. You’re rebuttal is against the wrong person.
I liked when they were paper and easy to remove. It reads like a rant from an mentally unstable religious nut, and not of the religious brands I tend to like. Love the product but prefer to pass on the monotheism. But still, an all around good company.
Tim Ferriss is responsible for a large amount of studies on the effect of psilocybin on depression. I think he invested something like $2M in research.
Just to mention, they aren't kidding about the "dilute" part. I'm not saying how I know, but if you won't take their word for it, you'd be well advised to take mine.
Quite the opposite! At least the one I use regularly, tea tree & hemp oil, has a moisturizing quality and leaves my hair (if it's not shaved) and my beard feeling healthier. I also only wash hair/beard twice a week (any product is harmful to hair on a daily basis).
Water is okay depending on your water and your hair.
I keep my hair clean by keeping it tidy, and with routine maintenance. But daily cleaning with anything soapy cleans oils that naturally protect it.
I don’t want to presume sex or gender identity but this is pretty general knowledge among women and fem identified people. Many men and masculine identifying people wash especially their hair too much. If you’re the latter, I encourage you to talk to people you trust among the former about hair care.
I’ll also say, being male presenting, this applies to body hair too. I also used to shower once to twice daily. I always felt like I was keeping clean but just barely.
I actually have better scent and skin if I shower every three to four days.
It sounds ridiculous, but your body is a biome, not just inside. If you nuke it you’re just managing chemicals on meat.
I shower daily, but only use soap on my ass. Dandruff shampoo once a week or so on my hair and that’s it. The women in my life think I smell just fine. Most of us probably don’t need all the soap we use.
Does anyone know of any testimonials of this from people of Mediterranean descent? My hair gets very, noticeably, oily if I don't shampoo every single day. It's kind of gross.
I know many people who don't shampoo every day, but they're all of different European backgrounds: English, Irish, German, etc.
Do you only use shampoo, and what kind? You should really use a mild shampoo and then a high quality conditioner. My hair used to be incredibly oily all the time when I used shampoo or shampoo+conditioner combo, even if I showered every day. Now it takes around 3 days to get greasy and I shower every few days. My skin is much more balanced and healthier (less acne, more even sheen, no dryness issues). I also do the equivalent of conditioner for my body- I use cetaphil on any part that I notice routinely gets dry (the bottoms of my feet, elbows, face, knees, etc.) since I started doing all this, my elbows went from being dry and ashy and scaly to looking just like the rest of my skin. I do use deodorant every day and have a bidet, but I don’t have any scent issues as far as I’m aware (I do ask others to check me, and days where I don’t use deodorant, I can smell myself, so I don’t think it’s a false bias.)
So does mine, and my skin too. My ancestry is half Scots-Irish Borderer and a quarter each Austrian and Italian, of which the latter seems strongly expressed in my integument; for example, despite half my family being very fair, my skin has an olive undertone, and I tan easily and well.
More to the immediate point, I likewise have rather oily skin and hair, to the point where if I don't shower daily with ample soap and shampoo, I start leaving smears on anything I touch. I've tried the experiment of going without soap a few days, to see if the oiliness was in compensation, and it wasn't; it's just that I either wash daily or turn into a greaseball, and always have done.
(I'm also one of those people whose skin oil gradually dissolves ABS plastic with regular contact. Of the last ABS set I used, to the tune of ~10M keystrokes, before switching to PBT caps, the spacebar had enough material removed to put a distinct curve in its lower edge where my thumbs would strike. Too, I now belatedly wish I'd put a protector on the Wacom tablet that doubles as a touchpad for my work machine. Not sure if the plastic-melting thing is related, but it seems fairly uncommon and so worth mention in this context.)
I’m a mix (maternal grandfather was Lebanese/Greek, rest of my family various European) and also had fairly oily hair. It also didn’t get less oily overnight when I started washing less, it took maybe a few months and yeah it felt gross. For what it’s worth.
Not the same guy, but I'm in the same boat. If I wash my hair every day, it gets insanely dry. I just keep most of it out of the water on the days I don't wash it. Some if it still gets wet, that's ok.
Interesting! As I recall, that was the same one that motivated my advice above. Maybe something about the tea tree oil, I thought, but I was strongly disinclined to further experiment.
It’s entirely possible we just have very different skin/hair/body chemistry and react very differently to it! Let this be a disclaimer to anyone reading the thread above: it might affect you differently!
I used Dr. Bronner's as a shampoo for about ten years. No noticeable dry hair problems. It doesn't feel exactly the same as using a commercial shampoo with lots of softeners, etc.
I said I wasn't saying, but since you seem to really want to know, it made the skin turn bright red and then peel for most of a week. Like the last stage of a bad sunburn, only without the itching, which at least was something of a mercy. Even so, it put me off the stuff in a way that's lasted ever since.
Neither did I anywhere else, and you'd think I would have, around my face or ears at least.
If I'm to be entirely honest, it was a little horrifying, especially at first. That probably accounts for my having written off the entire product line, despite being reasonably confident that it was solely the tea tree oil in that one variety at fault. The regular kind never gave me any trouble, but I couldn't really look it in the face again after that, you know?
In case folks are wondering, it's not some german brand. Founder escaped holocaust by leaving as the nazi party rose to power -. Parents stayed behind and became victims of the third reichs death death machinery.
I am unsure if this is the incident that they are referring to, however a teenager died in 2007 after jumping off a bridge while under influence[0]. As per the article, that was the catalyst for getting hallucinogenic mushrooms banned.
I think we definitely need a new approach to dealing with drugs and addiction.
We spend a ridiculous amount on incarceration, per inmate. Federally it's above $37k per year as of 2018 [1], and states averaged over $33k in 2015 [2].
That's excluding the cost of policing the drug war, lost taxation on illicit goods, state-funded medical and wage impact of addiction, or the lost consumer impact to the economy of those incarcerated or under addiction.
Ultimately drug addiction is a health and social issue. Treating it as a criminal issue has not significantly helped the problem. We can hamper black markets through legalization and regulation while reducing significant costs across a wide array of categories.
But I don't think we should simply legalize and be done with it, as that'd be dangerous. We need to shift the money we're already ineffectually spending. Put it into research, therapy, and the infrastructure surrounding regulation. Maybe mandated counseling to the addicted, once supply is more effectively monitored and controlled.
We need to focus on positive outcomes for individuals. Incarceration generally only pushes people into a spiral of continued negative outcomes.
“Safe use” being the important term. It refers to the lack of any lethal or physically damaging effects, as proven by numerous studies. No one has ever died from psilocybin.
Heroin is not at all safe, as you are aware. It is perfectly capable of killing.
> David Bronner, the top executive at Dr. Bronner’s soap company, helped bankroll the campaign, which had to overcome pandemic restrictions to gather signatures and get on the ballot last fall.