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Toyota aren't a monopoly and the auto industry is one of the most regulated on earth


Microsoft is not monopoly by any means now.


Word/Excel is the defacto default across industry. It’s a monopoly. Microsoft is using their monopoly on office suite to get a competitive advantage on chat/video collaboration software.

It’s like when Google uses their monopoly on search to highlight their own price comparisons in the top part of the result section, thus being anti competitive towards other price comparison companies (e.g. Pricerunner)


In the year 2000.

I have barely touched office over the past decade; been using Google Workspace. My past four employers have used Google. I have been using it personally, at work, for longer. My weightlifting club using Google sheets. My mortgage sheets were Google sheets.


I’ve worked at SAP, Oracle, and a few large consultancies. Most of my customers are in the enterprise size range. Office is used heavily by the larger companies of the world and therefore is used by their software and service vendors.

The only company I’ve ever worked with that was totally google drive was an American startup.

Office is still very much the dominant suite of software across most companies although there are plenty of smaller American companies trying to work without it.

I personally can’t tolerate the the lack of basic formatting that docs offers are how limited sheets and slides are. Just adding section numbers in docs needs an add on and if your collaborators don’t have the same add on they just add new sections without numbering. I can’t imagine large documents without numbering...


It's not a monopoly and far from it.


How far exactly? Most businesses use word.


I suppose the distance between being the sole provider, or having exclusive control over, office suite software and the 5 million businesses paying for GSuite as of last year? Or the 2 billion active GSuite users?

Lets make the unit of measure a paying business subscription. We will call them business units, or BUs. Microsoft Office is 5MBUs(mega business units) away from being a monopoly.


And office had 155 million in 2018 to your 5 million......


Ergo.. Not a monopoly.


How do you quantify?

I also never claimed it was a monopoly in the first. Looks like a few people are arguing against their own projections.


Most people know Word. Most schools teach Word. It's not the companies' fault for following trends that make it easiest on their employees.


Most businesses you have interacted with use word.

As other commenters say, many others don’t.


Many don’t but most do.


where do you get this info? the statistics say otherwise [0]:

> The office suite market in the United States is split between Google’s G Suite and Microsoft’s Office 365, with G Suite being the market leader holding a share of 59.41 percent and Office 365 occupying 40.39 percent, as of October 2020

I mean, maybe old-style orgs still use MS office, but it looks like all the non-IT ones are moving to Google.

Schools in our town use Google calendar and Google classroom. My gym uses google docs and google forms. Many of the random event "sign-up" pages are on google forms.

"Free" is a great price, and many businesses (especially smaller ones) do not want to pay extra for ms office.

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/961105/japan-market-shar...


My company, and many that I am aware of primarily use google docs. I could get behind duopoloy though.


I guess I implied that I think they're a monopoly in the area of productivity software, which isn't entirely fair since Google Suite exists. But in my shallow opinion Google Sheets is not really a competitor to Excel.


Five years ago I would say you are right. But Google Sheets is now good enough for all but the most serious Excel power users, and I'm sure they're still improving it.


90%+ on the OS speaks otherwise.

Yeah technically it's not a monopoly because there is Linux.


And Mac OS, which is about 14% of desktops?


MacOS never ever as a 14% desktop market share. Maybe in some states in the US but worldwide it's below 5%. It might reach 14% if you include iOS.



More like 7%: https://macdailynews.com/2019/10/10/apples-mac-holds-7-6-of-... This is actual sales, visibility on the Internet is skewed off by a number of limitations.


More like 4% depending on what statistic you'll believe.



It’s not on OS, but on Word/Excel they are considered monopoly in this context


You might be surprised at the market share of Google docs


Google Docs can't really compete with the MS feature set.


It can for 90% of users, I'd say.


linux devices far outnumber windows ones...




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