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So the conclusion we are to draw is that VPNs are for the naive, and that if you really get security, you self-host or go VPN-less (what is the alternative, exactly?)

Isn't the major benefit of a VPN the added hoop websites have to jump through in order to build visitor profiles?



> So the conclusion we are to draw is that VPNs are for the naive

Bit more nuanced than that, but it's certainly a field full of liars and scams.

> and that if you really get security, you self-host

Really depends on what your goal is; self-hosting can, for instance, pin you personally to a single static IP. But for some things, yeah it can be better.

> or go VPN-less (what is the alternative, exactly?)

TOR, I expect.

> Isn't the major benefit of a VPN the added hoop websites have to jump through in order to build visitor profiles?

That can be one benefit, yes. It doesn't have to be a silver bullet, but you do want to be clear on what benefits you expect to get from your particular solution.




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