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Max, would you be willing to evaluate Reddit alternatives? One is https://notabug.io/ after the Aaron Swarz quote, has seen hypergrowth since it started a few months ago using our P2P tech.


You emailed me about this so I'll reply here:

I call shenanigans on the hypergrowth, where the metrics you sent me imply ~1 million pageviews per month yet there is barely any engagement or new/original content on the site itself. (and the few comments there appear to be very Voat-esque)

Semi-related, I dislike straight-up Reddit/Hacker News clones, including the UI. If Reddit/HN has enough issue to warrant a competitor by cloning the UI, that just repeats the same problem.


I think ~1 million pageviews (according to SimilarWeb: https://www.similarweb.com/website/notabug.io) is notabug.io+snew.notabug.io (see subdomains section: snew.notabug.io 97.85% notabug.io 2.15%).

So notabug itself is 2% of 1 million ~ 20k pageviews.


That makes more sense, thanks for that clarification!

However, snew.notabug.io is a mirror of the corresponding Reddit posts w/o censorship, which makes it not an alternative! Shenanigans identified!


As one of the most active users of notabug.io: you're not wrong. There's no hypergrowth.

But the tech has real promise and that's the story here. Of course 'alternatives' get the scoundrels first so criticizing it on that merit is a bit generic.

There's value in federated systems with a p2p overlay even if they're not attracting the money driven crowds. You can't post sci-hub links openly on reddit. You can't even discuss how to handle DRM and bypass it.

Centralized systems are always going to go through the same lifecycle after they reach a critical mass requiring real money. It's not pretty. If anyone can self-host from home or even contribute hosting by visiting with a webrtc enabled browser it benefits a lot of groups pushed out for perfectly cromulent reasons.


You do realize that reddit owns Notabug, Inc, yeah?


notabug.io isn't owned by Reddit.


I'm aware of that, I'm just saying they own the corporation with the same name, which they got when they acquired Aaron's company.


They own Notabug Inc, not notabug.io


There's also a namespace collision on Freenode IRC. The #notabug channel is definitely not for notabug.io it's for the free code hosting group https://notabug.org


The UI is based on some open source repo by Reddit.


Yeah, it's based on the old open source reddit.


Using Gun and Blockchain to mirror content on other servers to prevent data loss.

Notabug.io is a P2P tech using the old Reddit UI.

http://k666.kr5ddit.com/ Is a free and open source version of http://kr5ddit.com made to look like the old Scoop and function like Reddit.


I hate how comments pop-in out of order. It's distracting.




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