I personally can’t wait for programming to ‘die’. It has stolen a decade of my life minimum. Like veterinarians being trained to help pets ultimately finding out a huge portion of the job is killing them. I was not sufficiently informed that I’d spend a decade arguing languages, dealing with thousands of other developers with diverging opinions, legacy code, poorly if at all maintained libraries, tools, frameworks, etc if you have been in the game at least a decade please don’t @. Adios to programming as it was (happily welcoming a new DIFFERENT reality whatever that means). Nostalgia is for life, not staring at a screen 8hrs a day
You got some arguably rude replies to this but you're right. I've been doing this a long time and the stuff you listed is never the fun part despite some insistence on HN that it somehow is. I love programming as a platonic ideal but those moments are fleeting between the crap you described and I can't wait for it to go.
Feels like this is a byproduct of a poor work-life balance more than an intrinsic issue with programming itself. I also can't really relate since I've always enjoyed discussing challenging problems with colleagues.
I'm assuming by "die" you mean some future where autonomous agentic models handle all the work. In this world, where you can delete your entire programming staff and have a single PM who tells the models what features to implement next, where do you imagine you fit in?
I just hope for your sake that you have a fallback set of viable skills to survive in this theoretical future.
I've been programming professionally since 2012 and still love it. To me the sweet spot must've been the early mid 2000s, with good enough search engines and ample documentation online.
Damn dude. I'm just having fun most of the time. The field is so insanely broad that if you've got an ounce of affinity there's a corner that would fit you snugly AND you'd make a decent living. Take a look around.
> [..] We don't want you to be a part of it either. [...]
He's being rude.
Honesty would be, something like:
> I (and probably many others) like programming a lot. Even if you're frustrated with it, I think a great deal of people will be sad if somehow programming disappeared completely. It might be best for you if you just found a job that you love more, instead.
Also the original comment makes a point that's SUPER valid and anyone working as a professional programmer for 10+ years can't really deny:
> poorly if at all maintained libraries, tools, frameworks
Most commercial code just sucks due to misaligned incentives. Open Source is better, but not always, as a lot of Open Source code is just commercial code opened up after the fact.
I'm not sure why anyone expects this conversation to be constructive at this point
People who are cheering for LLM coding because they hate actually coding themselves are cheering for programmers to lose their livelihoods
I am not going to be polite and constructive to people who don't care if my livelihood is destroyed by their new tools. Why should I? They are cheering for my ruin
Did you expect computer programming not to involve this much time at a computer screen?
Most modern jobs especially in tech do. If it’s no longer fulfilling, it might be worth exploring a different role or field instead of waiting for the entire profession to change.
I understand your frustration but the problem is mostly people. Not the particular skill itself.
Would love to see a PT.2 w even what is rumored in top closed source frontier models eg. o5, o3 Pro, o4 or 4.5, Gemini 2.5 Pro, Grok 4 and Claude Opus 4
Please. Don't mention apple and AI in the same sentance. Siri is worse than zero, it is utterly absolutely useless. And to partner with OpenAI. They have to get their S** in order here and fast, but if I put out a product like Siri I would be INSANELY embarrassed. If I was a trillion-dollar company and did, I would resign in discrace.
You’re getting downvoted perhaps because people think you’re saying something political, but I think you mean “a stronger voice for people with physical issues producing speech”.
I have a friend who has a faint, scratchy voice because his throat is riddled with benign growths that a surgeon has to dig out of him every few years. Eventually he will probably lose his voice. Maybe?
I love some stats and details on this, what kind of traffic are you seeing etc. Do you have a way to determine how many boxes in your visitor checks/unchecks? 97% of your pictures from Hacker News etc. Congrats on the hit!!!! Fun playing with it!!!
Cool but after waiting 2 mins for a one sentence prompt I got;
We have analyzed 1681 candidates and found 0 records matching the search criteria. The search was initiated 2 minutes ago and took 1 minute and 42 seconds to complete.
That's not a good experience - sorry! What was the prompt? Feel free to reply it here or email and I can look into it.
We're starting a retro on the thousands of searches people ran today, and will tweak the system based on the results. But, an early takeaway is that some searches failed when people applied a filter that the system doesn't understand.
For example, searching "Find AI startups with 50-100 employees" returns 0 results because Find AI doesn't know headcounts yet. (We'll work on that, though).
And then a second more simple
Query ‘find me people who have posted on Mamba architecture and might be looking for jobs’ and got;
We have analyzed 695 candidates and found 0 records matching the search criteria. The search was initiated 1 minute ago and took 50 seconds to complete.
I'd recommend going broader on this one, looking for just people who know Mamba architecture.
Find AI is built right now so that people exist only within a company. So, we don't have profiles or index people as individuals - just as employees. That probably made your search hard, because most employees aren't advertising that they are looking for a job (especially on the data sources we use).
There are many examples, I posted one to parent. Usually it effects some small percentage of users. But size of the team or company not directly solving the problem.
For a few reasons: there are lots of ways to abuse those features, which unfortunately some people would take advantage of; we want to preserve the history of the threads rather than have them be gutted or anachronistically edited; and because wholesale deletion would be unfair to the other commenters who participated in a thread (pg wrote about that way back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6813226).
That doesn't mean we don't care about protecting users with privacy and other concerns—we certainly do, and like I said we take care of these every day. We just try to do it with more precise tools than wholesale deletion.
It's fundamentally a tradeoff: we're trying to balance the community interests of a public forum with the need to protect individuals. There's no perfect answer, but we're committed to both sides of it. Of the people who ask us for these things, well over 90% end up satisfied. Probably over 99%, but I don't want to make claims I'm not sure of!
