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This is a fantastic outcome - lots of money and U.S citizenship! And your product didn't even hurt anyone unlike working for Meta, in fact no one even used it!

Well Italy for example is a founding member and joined in 1958. So not including it makes as much sense as not including Germany.

> It might make life more comfortable during some days of heatwaves but it's definitely not a need to survive.

Well I don't know , I lived 4 years in the Netherlands in one of those apartments that have huge windows on every room. During the summer some days got closed to 37-38c and the sun sets at what , 11PM ? I was pretty scared our newborn might die - I put a fan right on her of course but I'm not sure this setup is OK at all.


    the sun sets at what , 11PM ?
No. Even now, in the longest days of the year, the sun sets at 10pm, and we're not even into the hottest days of the year for another month or two as the days continue to get shorter again.

Yeah 10PM is still really bad, the house becomes a freaking oven

The numbers you cite are from last year, which was unusual historically as records, not the norm. The sunset in the hottest month will be 9pm, and those highs of >30C are experienced for less than one week. I think you're missing the point of the parent posters where it's over 25C in the large parts of the US for 3-4 months of the year.

Yeah that used to be true 40 years ago maybe

Why did he reduce Europe to north Europe in the beginning of the article? The EU is not just North Europe. It sounds to me a bit like cherry picking to make his case.

I think a lot of founding is pretty much a commodity, e.g coming up with a viable idea and then implementing it has become rather easy now with these tools. The real barriers are access to capital and clients. From the startup I joined (I'm the 6th person) I see how much the founders personal connections are important. That indeed can't be commoditized yet. But the process of coming up with an idea and iterating on it ? The founders didn't even come up with our idea - they thought of something initially but the investor led them to his own idea - totally different. That's how the company was born. Now the first clients are connected to the investors. Etc.

So access to capital and clients, connections ,that's the last standing moat I think.


It's a commodity in the same way that making music is a commodity (i.e. using production tools to make it sound good). But music today is so much more generic and boring than it used to be.

You seem to be mistaking the "rules" of the ZIRP SV nonsense bubble for the rules of reality.

Understandably so, but still.


> I think being good with the terminal is a signal that the person is willing to 'dig in' and understand stuff at a lower level.

You know what else is a good sign of them willing to dig in and understand stuff at a lower level ? If they dig in and understan stuff at a lower level. Let's judge people on what matters - the actual work and value they bring. Not status symbols like their IDE of choice or how fast they type into the keyboard.


Yes, that's why I said 'signal' and not 'sole metric used to determine worth'. Devs get so touchy about this subject. I didn't say being good with the terminal is all that matters, it's just an extra piece of information.

yeah its not a good piece of information but you do you

> this is the first model that feels like its coming for my job

Damn you must be good, I've been feeling this for around 2 years now


It's been obvious for at least 2 years, anyone who doesn't see the writing on the wall simply hasn't learned how to use these well or has severe exponential blindness.

"But it doesn't do well when writing my undertrained language" - yeah, fine. Yet. Reasonable code in that is probably one RAG + verification scaffold deployment around Mythos or maybe mythos+1. Just like it was for you learning it, because you knew how to _program_.


Yeah I agree. We're headed into a rougher job market pretty much across the board for white collar work , hitting junior people worse at this stage. Up to societies around the world to decide how to deal with this - so far we deal with it by ignoring it it seems.


The monks got mad too when the printing press was invented because it took their jobs of hoarding knowledge.

AI is just another tool, learn to use it.


And then in a couple years the AI gets better at "using AI" than the bottom 99.999% of knowledge workers, who are now out of work.


We are all doomed! Doomed I say!


I kinda agree I mean almost no one writes code by hand anymore but it doesn't mean we don't contribute any value anymore. I wouldn't exchange the entire r&d department with Claude yet - would you ?


Sure... and people keep finding exceptions like this, but that's not what most developers are doing. We're talking like top 25% has some security and no one else. That's an economy-level change.


I agree but I think it would take awhile. Some of us here seem to believe 2026-2027 is the end of programming jobs. At least that's Amodei seemed to be saying but then changed his mind later on?


Well given the pace of improvement so far, it's possible - though not given, IMO - that before 2028 we'll have models that make programming jobs fully obsolete. But that doesn't mean jobs will suddenly disappear; many places, especially in 3rd world countries, will continue to have humans programming for a while yet. Just that the available positions will slowly taper out over several more years, until only the most critical systems are maintained by a few humans, and programming - and other knowledge work - becomes purely hobby. Manual work will follow the same trajectory as AI also accelerates innovation in robotics.


It's possible , yes. For now I'm betting against it, we'll see.


Amodei has a track record of saying blatantly false shit in order to drive hype. At this rate, I see him as a snake oils salesman.


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