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One of the major worries that I've had when launching our marketplace was poaching; What if clients (the demand side) decide to hire developers (the supply side) outside of our platform? Of course, we had rules against that in terms of service, but hey, circumventing those is not a big risk.

But, luckily for us, the value that we provided to both parties (and still do) outweighed the risk of losing their accounts for violating TOS, so we very rarely see that.

Regarding chicken and egg problem, we manually found and pre-screened 10 people to provide supply in advance, so when the first client came, they'd have someone to hire. Earned $13 the third day after launch. Happiest day ever :)

Today we have 19 employees and are profitable (we've hit profitability the third year, we're now 7 years "old"). https://codeable.io


"the value" -- here it is when one moves from providing value to rent extracting behaviour, one should have really big walls surrounding the market - and really unappealing alternatives.


   Of course, we had rules against that in terms of service,
   but hey, circumventing those is not a big risk
And maybe not legal nor enforceable


Code blocks are used for code, not quotes


Honestly, the size doesn't matter.

I was once in the camp of small Docker images, but realized it's simply not worth the tradeoff, since there's only one upside to them, and that upside is fast transfer of images.

However, that argument becomes pointless when using a proper CI/CD stack. As a developer, you don't normally upload images yourself, but push changes to GitHub, then Jenkins/Travis/whatever takes over, builds the image, and pushes it into production/staging/whatever. Since CD tool of choice is usually also on the cloud, we don't have to worry about image size, nor to any of the CD vendors charge for data transfer.

I'd rather have bigger images (I base mine off Debian now, used to be Alpine) and not have to worry with lack of ported tools and libraries, than vice-versa.


What if you need to release a hot fix and your image is 1Gb?


1. I push a hotfix to GitHub. 2. Jenkins (which is on Google Cloud) builds it, and it already has all the Docker steps cached from previous builds, so it's fast. 3. Jenkins pushes the image to Google Cloud repo, which is almost instantaneous 4. Kubernetes (also on Google Cloud) pulls the image and makes a new deployment

No big deal. :)


And this is why we need a better image format so that people don't cripple their images to get around the misuse of tar archives.


So what is the point of one?


Out of curiosity, what's all the fuss with engagement rings in the first place? When me and my wife got engaged, I gave her nothing (nor did she expect anything), just asked her to marry me and she agreed, we kissed and that was it.

We did, however, made wedding rings, which together were about $1300, but that's because they were made out of gold.

Why overcomplicate things? :)


Marketing companies pushed for the “diamond” part of the engagement ring and built a narrative around it in the 30’s

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/ho...


Our engagement rings trace back to Middle Ages Europe, where they arose to serve a notice function (this person is taken). Diamonds became associated with them in the Victorian era, and became more widespread when ordinary people started copying the trappings of nobility (diamond engagement rings, college, etc.).


I was told a story that the concept originated before this, as a subtle way to identify acolytes of a certain religious order or place of worship in ancient times. The phrase used was "temple prostitutes". I've searched a bit and had trouble finding a source to back this up, though. If anyone has one or can debunk it, I'd be happy either way.


I assume peer pressure of some sort. When my now wife was telling all her friends she was engaged, the first thing they all asked was "let me see the ring!"


Must be cultural differences then - nobody around here (Central Europe) cares or asks about rings.


It's seems to be mostly a US thing (it doesn't seem common in Western Europe either). It boggles the mind how spending several monthly salaries on a ring became a solidly embedded tradition over there.


You seem to believe the commercials more than most Americans do. The vast majority of people don't spend that much on an engagement ring (I'm pretty sure the commercials said "two months'" not "several" anyway--but still, that's nuts, no one I know spent anywhere near that much). An engagement ring is pretty entrenched as a tradition, sure, but not the boggling part about the expense.


It got to Japan too. Probably from the US.


I'm in Poland, and I know three couples that got engaged the past year. All of them have diamond engagement rings. It's a small reference point, but clearly some people care in Central Europe, and they all seemed excited to "see the ring".


She's even had random strangers (like a store checkout clerk or hotel front desk) ask to see it closer and then compliment what a good job I did (not tooting my own horn, I and others think it's just as silly as you do, but if you want the girl you get her what she wants).


"but if you want the girl you get her what she wants"

That's the sadest thing I've read today.


What I meant was, if you love someone you want to make them happy, and in the grand scheme of things wasn't much over the course of a lifetime committment. I can see how it was worded gave the wrong impression.


When my ex and I got engaged, in Waterford, Ireland, all of her friends asked to see the ring and turn it around her finger. It was some sort of tradition.


This is the result of marketing of the De Beers corporation, who ran large campaigns about "Diamonds are Forever" and how important an expensive engagement ring was. That stuck quite well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers#Marketing


That's cool. It's also cool to give a token (such as an engagement ring) or exchange gifts as part of the engagement as well.

Why criticize the way other people choose to celebrate their engagement?


There's an important difference between criticizing a tradition, and criticizing individuals. The tradition, in this case, was greatly magnified by the parties who have a vested interest in people spending a lot of money on rings. That aspect of it conveys little benefit to the people who partake in it, or, as others have already noted, is even negative by encouraging people to spend too much of their income at a time in their life when they really ought to be focused on saving and making efficient use of their funds.

Rituals are good. A gift exchange can be great. A visible symbol is important to some people (I wear a wedding band and I like it). But the current tradition encourages something financially foolish for most modern couples.


Got married, skipped much of the shady symbolism associated with marriage. Asking permission from the father, like your wife is a piece of chattel, no. 9 month engagement to make sure the baby is yours, no. White wedding dress stating virginity, no. Engagement ring, no. We need to update many crazy symbols, they've just become too offensive. The longer we wait the crazier they become.


I got my fiancee a great looking engagement ring from a Chinese Etsy store. Cost including shipping was a little bit above $100.


A lot of places have wedding bands, without stones

Seems like diamond rings are another BS pushed by marketing and swallowed by the public.


Ok, I'll bite - enlighten us.


There is a difference, even if I disagree with 089723645897236 that the distinction matters here. Design incorporates function as well as looks. A sports car can be beautifully styled, but if the electronics don't work and the engine is underpowered and the transmission has too few gears and the seats don't sit at the right angle, it's certainly not well designed despite its good looks.

What they're saying is that Apple's products are nice to look at but do not function well, which is a very arguable statement.


Apple's products have been increasingly driven by form over function after Jobs died - most obviously slimness over practicality, and gimmicks like the TouchBar over user delight.

To some extent the change started while Jobs was alive, but there's certainly limited evidence of commitment to beautiful friction-free computing at Apple now - as there was, more or less, when Jobs was in charge.

Watch is a low point, because the case design is far from a classic, and the functionality is crippled by poor performance and limited battery life.

So I agree with those who think Ives is overhyped. He can make hits under supervision, but if he's left unsupervised, he's the design equivalent of an architecture astronaut.

The fact that Jobs had zero interest in a watch speaks volumes. I suspect - but can't prove - that he would also have had zero interest in Hermès branding, and the rest.


Slightly sarcastic, but on point: Doctors say a glass of red wine per day is good for your blood. But now, they also say it'll increase chances of getting cancer. So I guess I need to choose between these two. Too much of anything is a poison.


See my other post here [1], but alcohol probably isn't good for your cardiovascular system.

1 = https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15666791


On balance, seems better to avoid something that is actively bad for you than seek out something that is actively good for you. Other substances/behaviors may confer the same purported benefit without the same risk.


There's no protection from being a moron. Is drinking a glass of wine a day moronic? Maybe. Is drinking wine like it was water moronic. Yup.


A victim here. My 2007 MacBook Pro started to swell on the bottom after a couple of years, didn't think much of it, it was a tiny bump at first, but then it almost doubled in thickness so I replaced it with a cheap Chinese knockoff (was broke at the time due to starting a startup), and the same thing happened in about a year. Lesson learned.


same in 2009 model, i'm using it right now, (without OS X of course). there is now a 4-2mm lip on the underside where the battery panel is being pushed out. I still get about 40mins and seems to have stopped swelling so what the heck :P Anyway these days Apple sells those sort of things as "features"... lets call it a "leg gripping lip" allows lap usage at strange angles.


As a community services announcement: you should probably replace that battery immediately.

It might never burn your house down while you sleep, but someone else might read your comment and think it's okay.


I most certainly will not.

Shorting, puncture and overcharge cause lipo fires. Expansion can lead to puncture and shorting in stupid thin enclosures, this is in an inch thick unsealed enclosure with lots of give which even pops off with little force, containing a battery which has swollen around 1-2% of it's original volume.

This is not a consumer advice forum, it's hacker news...


Hey, you probably know that but just in case: charging a swollen battery is a fire hazard.


It's ok, it swollen to it's current size 8 years ago... and hasn't changed since. It's also not restricted to it's housing because the battery compartment quite easily pops off.

(non-extreme) swelling does not itself cause fire, restriction which leads to puncture or shorting does... this is not a year old 1mm thick smart phone, it's an inch thick decade old macbook.


Same here, doesn't instill much confidence for a hosting company to have their homepage down.


Sadly they failed the HN DDoS test.


True but as they say "Let he is without a good slashdotting cast the first packet".


I use N26 as my personal bank, and I must say it's pretty much instantaneous - when I pay contactless, I can hear my phone notification before I get to put the card back in the wallet. I've tested the card across Europe while traveling and the speed at which I get push notifications is consistently fast.


Can confirm, phone vibrates before the POS beeps.


Care to elaborate why? I'm somewhat of an apple-fanboy but Surface seems more and more appealing, and I'm leaning towards giving one a try.


I have an SP3. It is the best device I've bought in years.

I interact with the device in a fundamentally different way. I will sit and read a document with a pen and no keyboard (to proofread, highlight and makes notes). I'd tried this on ipad and it never fit in my workflow well.

I will use it to take notes at a meeting in OneNote. Again, the ipad workflow never worked for me for this.

The benefits definitely aren't for everyone. But it fits me perfectly, and I wouldn't go back from it now. Its probably at least a year before I upgrade (I also have a desktop for heavy lifting). I'm feeling the pinch of the older SP3 cpu a bit on some of the work I do, but not enough to warrant an upgrade yet. If I had money to throw around, I'd get the new one as a drop in upgrade without a second thought.


OOC, can you explain why the iPad workflow has never worked for those things you mentioned? Seems like one of its core intended designs is taking notes/reading documents much like an actual notebook


When I tried it might have worked if you'd fully bought into the apple ecosystem, but in a mixed corporate environment it just wouldn't work.

A document had to be somehow transferred into each viewer, and manually saved back out so I could use the reviewed document on the desktop.

With the SP3, live documents are stored in either dropbox or a network share and its seamless.

I do a lot of design work in indesign and photoshop, and even word. Being able to make both simple and substantive changes on the fly is a lot more use than far more limited ipad apps.

The SP4 pen is far more pleasant to write with than any ipad stylus I came across. This is all just a matter of taste, but I found my muscle memory reacts for better to the SP4 stylus.

My ipads were great for many things, but work was never one of them for me.


The form-factor is pretty amazing. The portability is very good. The performance is also very good within the above two factors.

The problem is the software and features:

- Windows 10 is a known factor, and it constantly frustrates.

- No Thunderbolt or USB-C is ridiculous in 2017.

I'd like to see Microsoft releasing Linux drivers for the Surface Pro. If they really love Linux enough to support it on Azure, they should support it everywhere. (I know, they support it on Azure to compete with AWS and Googs)


I've pretty much gotten used to Windows 10 at this point, and there are even a couple of minor UI tweaks that I miss when I use my Windows 7 machine at work. What frustrates you?


Windows 10 updates frustrate a lot of people. It will attempt it when you have a bad wifi connection and make the internet unreachable, or it will reboot when you're in the middle of something. And woe if you run out of battery power in the middle of the update... I'd rather have more control.


My pro 4 works perfectly fine. I'm just a desktop apps junkie (sales mainly) and so there is no real reason to upgrade. That said the new pen's deeper resolution is impressive, as I switched (primarily) from Evernote to OneNote and haven't looked back. (I still pay for Evernote, now it is purely for legacy info).


Microsoft built an Evernote-OneNote import tool.


Awesome! I wasn't aware of that and did briefly google for one a while back. Hopefully I can migrate, the $5 bill every month, while not expensive, is becoming a bit annoying now as the value exchange simply isn't what it used to be for me.


I have an iPad pro, a MacBook, and a Surface Pro. I carry the MacBook and the iPad. The surface is too hot, cooks off battery too fast, the screen is small, the UI for the desktop app I use has icons too small to Target with the pen. The charger is janky.


I realize by "too hot" you were mainly talking about how it affects battery life. But I thought I'd add that I have a 15" Macbook Pro (work) and a Surface Book (home) and at times I find the MBP's keyboard almost unusable as it generates so much heat I can barely touch the keys. I've resorted to using third party apps to run the fans at higher speeds earlier to try and mitigate this. One of the features I love about the Surface devices is that the CPU is in the display and thus the keyboard never gets hot.

This new Surface Pro supposedly has longer battery life and the core i5 is fanless. We'll see how it translates to actual real world usage in future reviews hopefully.


In my case, I wouldn't upgrade just for the sake of upgrading to a newer device since the ones we have are still doing the job, maybe parent poster is in the same boat.


You got it in one. I'm very happy with my pro4, so no need to upgrade. It is perfect for meetings and quickly doing work on the move. I will never[1] go back to a standard laptop, my desktop does the heavy lifting.

[1] Never say never, but it is a pretty big improvement!


As an apple fan who gave the surface 3 pro (with surface 4 keyboard) a try, yes you can mix and match the keyboards, I didn't end up keeping it long. My MacBook Air's keyboard and touchpad was much superior to the surface and I found coding on the tiny surface cumbersome.


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