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I did see a Reddit thing where some tourists were planning to stay in the Lake District and visit Edinburgh and Stonehenge, all during winter.

Could've been ragebait, to be fair - they weren't interested when people pointed out that things like weather, hours of daylight, travel time were all going to be against them (or even that the Lake District is a pretty tourist-friendly place to start with).


Google Maps says between 5 and 6 hours and 227 miles - doing that in 3.5 hours would be averaging 65mph. Good luck with that, especially when the speed limit on the A9 itself is 60 mph for cars!

The US interstate is probably more comparable with UK motorways.


I can safely do it in good conditions in six hours and I'd consider myself a very experienced driver for that route, having driven from Skye to Glasgow or Edinburgh and back a couple of times a week for years.

Absolutely, doing it in half that time would be madness though!

> I think it's exactly that, the UK has never had this so people there either choose by brand or just convenience.

We've had it for years (as noted in other comments there's a few different people like the RAC, AA and Petrolprices.com all maintaining their own lists - a quick check of my email has messages from the latter going back to 2011). The new part is that this is from the government and the data is freely accessible (Petrolprices in particular covered their pages in ads, so I'd be surprised if there wasn't a way to exchange money for the data).

The context to this is that, especially since the pandemic, there's been a complaint with the Competition and Markets Authority that the petrol stations were quick to raise prices, slow to lower them, and weren't competing with each other[1]:

> The CMA found that retail prices tended to "rise like a rocket, but fall like a feather" in response to increases or decreases in the cost of crude oil.

Independent petrol stations have virtually disappeared and you don't have to look too hard to see that in an area they tend to all raise or lower their prices in virtual lockstep. Gathering this data would make the case significantly easier if the next step were that some of the petrol station operators had to be broken up to encourage more competition.

1: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp80dpzdg37o#comments

Edit: Petrolprices was founded in 2005 (!) [2]

2: https://www.myautomateapp.co.uk/


But how accurate was the data on those older apps?

Petrolprices.com (for example) seems to have been built on user-reported data rather than petrol-station reported data, and it's easy to find fairly recent criticisms of the whole thing being inaccurate. And an inaccurate comparison site is fairly useless IMHO.

I lived in the UK until 2021 and I must admit I'd never heard of them. Whereas here in WA everyone uses fuelprices. There are probably other factors involved here as well, as we have a weird weekly or biweekly price cycle (though I think this has ended somewhat in the last two years) where every second Tuesday fuel was dirt cheap as they were trying to clear down the tanks ahead of the next delivery.

Is the 'new part' not that the vendors are being forced to actually publish comparison data rather than rely on third parties to gather it?


Other than a time lag (and petrol prices don't generally change often enough to matter IME), I can't say I ever noticed any of them being that inaccurate.

myAutomate (the owners of Petrolprices.com) talk about having "over 60 years combined expertise in the fuel industry", so I suppose I'd be surprised if it's all crowdsourced data - they've probably made arrangements with at least the big players, in which case the forced publication is much of a muchness?


The AA also show prices through their app.

This isn’t a new thing either; Farage has been challenged over claiming to align with far-right Northern Irish Unionist parties like Traditional Unionist Voice while recording Cameos saying things like “up the ‘RA”.

The ignorance isn’t a mistake, it’s part of the brand that lets them spout whatever their audience wants ts to hear.


Same, although the town in general. I wondered if they addressed how they came up with the name, but don't see anything.

I've looked into it but have not found any mention or a clue.

Maybe that's the answer - the USA needs to hold a referendum on becoming a British colony again. It's 250 years since they declared independence, maybe they've changed their mind on having a king? (/s)


> Hosting a website behind a NAT isn’t as trivial as it used to be, and for many it’s now impossible without IPv6.

The example I keep coming back to is multiplayer games like Mario Kart, where Nintendo tell you to put the Switch in the DMZ or forward a huge range of ports (1024-65535!) to it [1].

If you’ve got more than one Switch in the household, though, then I guess it sucks to be you.

1: https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Support/Troubleshooting/How-t...


To require that, the person would have needed to disable upnp on their router. I’ve played tons of multiplayer games on the switch and upnp handled it seamlessly on the 7 or 8 home networks I connected it to over its life. Never once even had to think about it.

So yes, if you disable the requisite, standard, built-in feature on your router, you may need a pretty annoying workaround. Weird!

What percentage of users do you imagine disable upnp? Let’s be real. This is a problem that your average user will never, ever experience a problem with.


No they wouldn't. UPnP is not requisite, certainly not standard, or necessarily built-in. For example, the router I've got doesn't implement UPnP. It's not unusual for it to be disabled, because it's a security issue that something with no authentication can punch enduring holes out through NAT. It's also irrelevant in a scenario where the ISP's using CGNAT.

I'm sure the Switch deals with conflict resolution with multiple consoles on the same network too but shrug it's another example of how NAT is a pain and also contradicts your assertion that incoming connections would be a breach of ISP ToS [1].

Edit: A quick Google suggests the Switch originally didn't support UPnP, and the Switch 2 now supports IPv6.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46484604


Ok, so it didn’t even need upnp then. Are you talking about using their LAN head-to-head feature across the internet? Or perhaps all the times I used my switch on various networks to play head-to-head games it was… my imagination? Sure. If people had to consistently forward every port on their home router to play Fortnite, smash, etc. with a portable console you’d never hear the end of it. This is literally the first time I encountered someone saying this was a problem. Regardless, most people don’t buy routers— they use the ones their ISPs gave them, and I haven’t seen one of those come without upnp in at least a decade. You’re seeking out reasons to dislike NAT.


> So many people online (not just reviewers) complaining that it's just a spec-bump, demanding a new design.

If ever there was a case of "be careful what you wish for" - whether it's the Touch Bar, deleting ports or the butterfly keyboard, a redesign isn't necessarily a positive.


I loved the touch bar once I realized all the first party applications actually had useful customizations for it.

When you used the Terminal app, there was literally a "man" button that would open the relevant man page (for whatever command you currently had typed) in a new window.

Actually an awesome feature if application authors got on board.

Making the power button part of the bar instead of a physical button sucked though.


You know, I would not be mad if the Touch Bar made a return sitting above the function row keys.

If they had done that from the beginning, I think the reception to Touch Bar would have been a lot more positive.


Leith to London isn't that far away from 500 miles.


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