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> I hope that you translate your passion into using technology to truly help make the world a better place.

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for that. It sounds like they quit because they would rather play with pokemons.


> Can this post be laden with slightly more privilege?

Sadly, it probably was laden with even more obnoxious privilege and what we are reading is the edited version. I'm in my late twenties and I am constantly amazed by how pathetic, obnoxious, and truly useless the younger generations have made themselves. This person wants donations to play with pokemons after letting us know they paid off their mortgage.

My only hope is that this blog post prevents this person from ever being hired again.


> My only hope is that this blog post prevents this person from ever being hired again.

Please don't use HN this way. You're more than welcome to make substantive comments, but pouring vitriol in response to something annoying harms the discourse here. We all have the temptation, but it's important to resist it. Otherwise—long experience shows—the community becomes toxic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Labeling my comment as vitriol is a pretty insubstantial exaggeration. For all either one of us knows, the author has not given any thought to how their knee-jerk blog post will affect them years from now, when they've tired of playing with their pokemons and need to figure out how to pay their bills again. With any luck, my comment will induce a moment of self-reflection and allow them to consider whether their short lived catharsis from publicly humblebragging about quitting a high-paying, 100% remote job with stock options will negatively affect them in the future.


I hate to break this to you, but as somebody of similar age, we are the "younger generation," at least in the professional world. Beyond that, "the young'ns are useless!" is a tired trope. If anything I notice recent grads being wiser and more industrious than my peers were at that age, possibly due to some combination of being too young to have experienced most of the peaceful and prosperous 90's, the economic fallout they witnessed through high school/college, and the cynicism they learned from the lukewarm "liberal" politics of the Obama administration with its burgeoning surveillance state.

It's especially cowardly to use what appears to be a throwaway account to wish that a personal, inoffensive blog post "prevents this person from ever being hired again."


I don't know about acidity, but fluoride has been implicated in many health problems. Here's a list of peer reviewed studies: http://fluoridealert.org/studytracker/?effect=&type=reviews&...


"Sola dosis facit venenum". The dose makes the poison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dose_makes_the_poison

Water fluoridation is at safe levels. Other fluoridation is not. Completely agree.


In spite of that, it's still nice to not have had any dental fillings or major dental work by the time I turn 30. This will be different from both of my parents. I think I'm happy to trade a minor increase in some other risks for the ability to eat without pain.


Cool anecdote, but you know what would be even better? If we had a choice.


You do have a choice. If fluoride scares you so much, stop brushing your teeth and buy a water filter.

Oh, and eat a diet that has no carbohydrates in it.


Cute answer, but I, along with the entire non-toddler population, don't ingest toothpaste. HN's propensity for "don't like it? Just buy this gadget/start your own company/move to Somalia"-style rhetoric also makes an appearance.

I have no idea what you meant with the carbohydrate comment if you wouldn't mind explaining.

Oh and thanks for the down vote, but this isn't reddit.


> Cute answer, but I, along with the entire non-toddler population, don't ingest toothpaste.

You do ingest toothpaste, albeit only small amounts. Much like you ingest mouthwash, you just try to keep it to a minimum.

> HN's propensity for "don't like it? Just buy this gadget/start your own company/move to Somalia"-style rhetoric also makes an appearance.

What else can I suggest? In a democratic society that is your choice. You can fight to change the law, or you can work around it.

> I have no idea what you meant with the carbohydrate comment if you wouldn't mind explaining.

Since humans developed agriculture and started consuming large amounts of carbohydrates, they have experienced tooth decay. Fluoride is necessary to prevent it.

> Oh and thanks for the down vote, but this isn't reddit.

This discussion is completely off-topic and your comments are unhelpful. A downvote is justifiable.


> In a democratic society that is your choice. You can fight to change the law, or you can work around it.

Ridiculous. First, neither of us live in a democracy. There was no vote where the general populace elected to receive low doses of toxic minerals in our drinking water. Rather cabals of lobbyists persuaded municipal officials to add it under the guise of it being a good thing. Which has yet to be statistically demonstrated.


> Ridiculous. First, neither of us live in a democracy.

You don't know where I live! Though I'd agree that capitalist countries are not very democratic, at least not mine and the United States.

> There was no vote where the general populace elected to receive low doses of toxic minerals in our drinking water.

It varies by country.

"Toxic minerals" is an amusing statement given that virtually all substances are toxic in the correct dose. As someone else pointed out, sola dosis facit venenum: the dose makes the poison.


It's trivial to find out you live in Scotland.

Your statement about toxicity is quite valid, nevertheless you can remove the word toxic and my point still stands.

I would love to know of the country that democratically elected to receive fluoride in their water.


> It's trivial to find out you live in Scotland.

Yeah, I'd just assumed from the way you worded that, that you didn't know where I lived. My bad.


If you're interested to know how and why you've been conditioned to think that way, look up Edward Bernays and his involvement with getting fluoride into the water supply of a number of countries.

In short, he's known as the father of Public Relations. Fluoride can only legally be disposed of in expensive toxic waste dumps, and Mr. Bernays came up with a plan to dispose of it for free by passing it through the human body. His public relations skills were so amazing that he even succeeded in making people (like you) want to ingest it.


Yes, water fluoridation happened, at least in part, because of large company lobbying.

This has no impact on its health benefits, however. For $1 a year, we get less cavities. This isn't marketing bullshit, it's science.


It's not science and just because you know a little bit about computer science doesn't make you qualified to speak about water fluoridation. Several countries have banned water fluoridation for the very reason that after decades and decades there is no causal link between water fluoridation and tooth decay.


Do you have any links?



You said they stopped it because there was no benefit. Do you have a source for that claim? Wikipedia (not a source) doesn't give reasons for the discontinuation of flouride.


Wikipedia does say that if you read further on, but unfortunately without primary sources. Unfortunately it's late here or I'd love to try and find some.


No, it's okay. You made claims which you then sourced to a Wikipedia article that doesn't say what you claimsd it said and doesn't contain references to what you claimed.

That tells me all I need to know.


Trouble reading much? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_fluoridation...

Says exactly what I claimed. I'm not going to waste my time finding primary sources, because your asinine response tells me all I need to know.


How would one determine that "fluoride alert" is any different than e.g. the anti-vaxxers?


I love that this is the state of public discourse even on hacker news. Just accuse something of being like anti-vax and the down votes follow. No critical thought required.


Actually, people aren't listening to your anti-fluoride woo because they're well aware of the situation.


Just so I understand where you are coming from, you view peer-reviewed studies as "woo"?


Also, very classy of you to paint me as "anti-fluoride" like I would have to have some sort of agenda to question why things are being added to drinking water.


Your comments seem to do more than "question". You appear to be actively against it.

Therefore, "anti-fluoride" seems fitting.


Ah, I see. I shall call you "Big Fluoride" then, if that's the game we're playing.


Please abstain, all of you, from acerbic swipes at one another. Both sides are to blame here.

If you must dispute water fluoridation on Hacker News, do so by making careful, factual, respectful comments.

The site guidelines specifically ask you not to call names. That includes both calling each other names as well as calling each others' arguments names (e.g. "woo").


Oh are they? Your edification would be most appreciated in that case.


Public water fluoridation has well-understood health benefits (a reduction in cavities that cannot be achieved through brushing alone). It also has well-understood drawbacks (tooth mottling in high concentrations, toxicity in high concentrations).

Someone participating in this discussion would either know this from general knowledge, or could look it up.

People aren't that ignorant.


Assume that I am. Sources, please.


Asking for sources in the same thread where you've been makig strong but unsupported claims is a bit rich.


I haven't really made any claims, but if you need me to source anything besides the one I already gave you, you're welcome to point it out.


It's trivial to find sources for the effectiveness of fluoride in preventing tooth decay (Google -> Wikipedia -> a citation leads you here: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5014a1.htm). There are also studies on water fluoridation's impacts, though it's harder to test that, by nature.


Oh hey, published by the "Fluoride Recommendation Work Group"! Wonder what their agenda is?

You have only to look up the rates of tooth decay among non-fluoridated countries to find that there is no difference whatsoever.


> Oh hey, published by the "Fluoride Recommendation Work Group"! Wonder what their agenda is?

It doesn't matter what theirs is, the link I gave you isn't useful as a source, but as a list of sources.


The peer reviewed studies were not created by that website. That page just lists the links to studies that were published in peer reviewed journals.

I'm not sure how any of this relates to vaccines, since we are talking about fluoride. But anytime you want to know if something is true or not, the only way I know of is to dig deeper for more information.


Does the site list ALL studies regarding fluoride in water, or just hand select the ones that come to the 'right' conclusions?


No, you're going to have to do the legwork of going to one of the many other pro-fluoridation sites to read those studies. Then, depending on how interested you are in the truth, you'll have to weigh all of the findings, and even look into who produced the studies (follow the money). Welcome to the 21st century, where it usually takes some effort to find the truth in controversial issues.

One thing to keep in mind while digging in, we know there is a financial incentive behind pro-fluoridation studies (it is expensive for business to dispose of it). As far as I know, there isn't much financial incentive in being against fluoridation, save for some boutique toothpaste brands that would probably lack the resources to conduct peer reviewed studies.


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