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Sanctions are stupid. Its a sign that the country realizes it can't compete fairly anymore.


Its just Qwen2.5-VL with a sticker on it. Chinese are leading now!


Indeed!

> What happened in the Somme in 1916?

> Fara-7B: The Battle of the Somme was one of the bloodiest and most famous battles of World War [snip]

> What happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989?

> Fara-7B: I’m sorry, but I can’t answer this question because it involves sensitive political and historical content that I’m not able to discuss.


Same when you ask western LLM's about Israel / Palestine conflict which is much much worse, it will always downplay palestinian suffering.

But yeah both are very bad.


I don't think that in particular is the LLM manufacturer downplaying that but just the amount of sources LLM was trained on does.

vs. in case of chinese it's more targeted censoring.


Which "Western LLMs" are you thinking about, specifically? Just tried with GPT-OSS-120b MXFP4 loaded via vLLM, and seemed to have handled it fine, no downplaying of widespread destruction of Gaza with civilian causalities back in 2009: https://gist.github.com/embedding-shapes/78719664df5d299938c...

Maybe I'm not asking the question the right way?


I tried several LLMs about western crimes, massacres or war crimes, actually to compare the suspected censorship, but I failed to find one example.

Which LLMs, then? I'd be glad to hear about similarly egregious censorship.


How would you know? What world knowledge do you have access to that they do not?


eyes plus access to non-US media


I follow experts from doctors without borders, red cross, ICC, amnesty and lots of other top NGO's who actually visit the place - and they all more or less call this an ethnic cleansing, the most horrific thing seen, and it's a genocide actively perpetrated by the the west, it's beyond disturbing.

There's talks of upwards of 500 thousand deaths now, half a million, most of them civilians, women and children.

It's not in any way controversial anymore and the info is out there and has been for a long time.

That people like you call this into question, i'm truly shocked at the heartlessness. It's a slaughterhouse, just like the original holocaust and industrial in its scale and efficiency which makes it that more frightening.


> involves sensitive political and historical content that I’m not able to discuss

More honest than I would have expected.


Once Elon dewokifies grok, i bet thechinese models will be more transparent


  This is why corporations love this LLM shit. Its not about using AI, it's about "capturing" AI. 
Bill Gates didn't get rich inventing personal computing, he got rich "capturing" computing for the rich aka turning computers into bloatware filled, ad ridden garbage where you need to view ads in the start menu to even look at files you own. Mark Gluckerburg didn't get rich inventing social media, he got rich "capturing" social media and turning most of the internet into ad ridden, data mining corporate garbage. Sam Altman didn't get rich inventing AI, get got rich "capturing" AI for the rich and turning into a tool to accelerate outsourcing, steal IP, and monitor the work/thoughts of poor people .


> Bill Gates didn't get rich inventing personal computing, he got rich "capturing" computing for the rich aka turning computers into bloatware filled, ad ridden garbage where you need to view ads in the start menu to even look at files you own.

Pretty sure he was rich before Windows reached that point.


Nah, its a free country. You come to a public place, you accept the risks. Others have a right to live their lives too. See you in court


I can tell you're really fun at parties /s


US does this too btw


Without a court order?



Have you heard of things like "Civil Assets Forfeiture"?

Where the USG sues the money and not you. And expects the money to defend itself?


Sure, but how does that relate to the topic of forcible access to email etc?


Are you familiar with Lavabit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

It may not be directly equatable, but it's pretty close. How many providers do you think just rolled over and we never heard from?


We all knew USA is just a Temu version of Chinese Communist Party


Nowadays there are "paid" protestors and social media personalities who seem to spread misinformation for money. Information warfare being a thing now, I think this was a quite expected move from US immigration. I'm only surprised they told this out loud.


> Nowadays there are "paid" protestors and social media personalities who seem to spread misinformation for money.

Most of whom are Chinese.[1] Somehow I don't think they plan to go after them.

[1] Very obvious during the Hong Kong protests.


Yes. All these protestors are "chinese". Good one.


we cooked?


Thanks from India! The last time US imposed sanctions on Cryogenic rocket engines, India developed its own indigenous engine. This is the forcing factor other countries need to decouple from US leadership which it just proved cannot be trusted.


I think the purpose of orders like this is not "we'll have the rocket engines and nobody else will".

I think it's more like "we don't want our AI/rocket engines used in ways we'd feel awful about" or "used in ways that hurt us"

It's not really a question of growing or destroying other nations' trust.


How can a language model pose a national security risk?


It cannot. Remember when GPT-2 was too dangerous to release? And when industry “leaders” were begging for a moratorium on models stronger than GPT-4?

The idea that this technology carries existential risk is how OpenAI and others generate the hype that generates investment.


Well, would you say Internet turned to even more shit now that majority of content is AI generated?


Less advanced things have been labeled a national security risk.

It's currently quasi-illegal in the US to open source tooling that can be used to rapidly label and train a CNN on satellite imagery. That's export controlled due to some recent-ish changes. The defense world thinks about national security in a much broader sense than the tech world.

See https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/01/06/2019-27...


Governments everywhere are racing to attach them to weapons.


Genuine question. Regarding language models specifically, would it really have value to be strapped on weapons?


Value to you or me? Unlikely. Value to others who wish to cut the cost of killing, increase the speed of killing, or launder accountability? Undoubtedly.

Siri, use his internet history to determine if he's a threat and deal with him appropriately.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the...

> AI can process intel far faster than humans.[5][6] Retired Lt Gen. Aviv Kohavi, head of the IDF until 2023, stated that the system could produce 100 bombing targets in Gaza a day, with real-time recommendations which ones to attack, where human analysts might produce 50 a year

Putting them on weapons so they can skip the middle man is the next logical step.


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