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Main reason I'm replying is you've misspelled Fuchsia as Fuschia and to ramble a bit, maybe this was on purpose and if so that's ok. https://fuchsia.dev/

Some more ramblings -

My understanding with Fuchsia and programming languages,is they ditched Google's GoLang for Rust, they don't like GCs, but they're keeping Flutter due developer productivity, dart's hotreload feature, etc.

If Fuchsia ends up in the phone space, they would want it to run android apps, work is going on with starnic for running unmodified linux apps.

https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/contribute/governance/rfcs/0...

Also I watched some of the Fosdem ubuntu stand talks, the Flutter desktop talk had an interesting demo, with the Ubuntu person saying all new ubuntu apps are to be Flutter apps.

Tidbit - The ubuntu team is working on Full Multi-window for Flutter desktop for windows, mac and linux.


It draws every pixel, like a 2d game engine. There's Ubuntu package for their Yaru style. https://pub.dev/packages/yaru


Security "Zircon is a capability-based, object-oriented kernel"

"The Zircon system fully isolates processes by default, and must explicitly grant capabilities and resources. Fuchsia passes capabilities and resources by handles rather than name, which leads to a system that only grants software access to what it needs."

https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/principles/secure?h...


If you down load, and build, fuchsia, the fx cmd can list boards and products.

I recall a early goal of fuchsia was to be able to build fuchsia with fuchsia, I wonder when the workstation build will be up to that stage.

fx list-boards arm64 as370 chromebook-x64 * qemu-arm64 qemu-x64 toulouse vim2 vim3 vs680 x64 x64-reduced-perf-variation

fx list-products bringup core terminal workstation


My understanding with toit vm you have can have multiple programmes running and if one crashes, the others continues. The vm, etc, allows live update and or to deploy something new.

If you're interested in hearing Kasper talk about toit, he did a long livestream the other day, the toit bit is at the 1hr 34min mark. https://youtu.be/k7YITNpvcaY?t=5640


The article does answer the question in the title. "Why doesn’t V8 fit on my microcontroller?"

"It is fast, but prohibitively expensive in terms of memory."

So there's no room for v8 on a $2 board, Toit vm and toit language have been designed from the ground up for the iot world.

Tidbit, Dart team did have an iot project called dartino, before flutter took over the dart world.

Anyway the article was posted on the toit website.

I've been following their progress via twitter. https://twitter.com/toitware https://twitter.com/toitlang


Seems with Flutter being open, the growth of flutter outside of mobile was started by others, with it's being picked up by other teams within google and outside of google.

In this podcast, Eric one of the original flutter guys,said desktop and web started by other team with in google. https://twitter.com/darkofabijan/status/1392061926407028740

Teams from Sony, Toyota and Samsung(Tizen) are giving flutter a go on their own. Also the ubuntu guys are active committers to progress flutter desktop.


"But Flutter choosing Dart" Maybe kotlin was a year too late, not making it to 1.0 till February 15, 2016.

The sky project that became flutter was demoed at the April 2015 dart conf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA

As regards Javascript, that's what they started with, they looked at other languages and gave dart a go, it gave them faster startup and the dart team offered them stateful hot reload.

Anyway working in the chrome space, they prob didn't know that Kotlin existed pre 2015 and prob would have gone with Python if could.


Two weeks ago on reddit "Shader precompilation for Metal has landed in Skia:" https://www.reddit.com/r/FlutterDev/comments/mq1ouu/advices_...

and comment from last week on a flutter issue say it's working for them on the master channel. https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/79298#issuecomment...


Other comments in other tickets said it might not be the complete solution, and it's not released on stable yet. I hope it works, but it might not.

It's also a bit indicative that this kind of issue is left standing for years. The desktop resize jank one similarly took years to resolve.


Ubuntu is doing work on desktop flutter, I recall hearing that they are working on hooking up flutter to accessibility bit of ubuntu.

https://ubuntu.com/blog/flutter-and-ubuntu-so-far

tidbit - there is early support to build linux flutter apps on the raspberry pi. Would be good if android team offered arm builds of their tools, then it would be possible to build for android on the pi.


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