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Both. We are currently doing contracts (50/50) as the platform is not ready yet. But after the platform is ready we will give people the self-service or human assisted service as options. We want to capture as much human knowledge as possible in our chatbots and give the humans a perpetual revenue from it.


Lol I was caught by this footgun a while back. Use arrow - there I saved you a ton of time.


I see what you did there.


Protecting jobs and moving europe back to the dark ages :)


Between this and Elon saying that AI needs to be paused for discussion is super harmful.

People forget that if you pause it. People are not going to stop. Does the world want Russia and China to continue investing and developing while the west discusses what the scope of ai should be allowed to do? Because they sure as hell won’t be stopping to discuss anything.


“if we stop Russia and China”, what really is this based on?

Like as if Russia and China are just full of idiots and all the Chinese and Russian AI scientists are idiots and don’t understand our point of view. Don’t understand how risk or dangers? Like as if the leader of China is an idiot who doesn’t get it either ? It’s just ridiculous.

So what if America developed something really powerful in isolation and other countries find out about it, that may lead to immediate escalation and world war 3 , have you considered that? It’s a silly idea.

What needs to happen is people realise we’re all humans, we all live together in the same biosphere and rather than continue to perpetuate and justify arms races, we must start to talk and solve our differences. That’s the mature thing to do. If we can get to that stage, maybe then we’re ready for more advanced technology.


> So what if America developed something really powerful in isolation and other countries find out about it

This isn’t about America. America is not the only country working on AI. But if you stop all AI development in America and say europe because “oh it might be dangerous”. Do you think other countries, for example, China and Russia, are going to stop?

> What needs to happen is people realise we’re all humans, we all live together in the same biosphere and rather than continue to perpetuate and justify arms races, we must start to talk and solve our differences. That’s the mature thing to do.

100% agreed. But the sad fact is that is not even close to the reality we live in.


if you’re referring to the letter regarding a 6 month pause, no one suggest all AI development was stopped, they asked for a pause on training LLMs at scale.


Elon caused for a pause in AI training.


https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experime...

If you're referring to this, which is what I'm referring too, it says "Giant AI experiments" not a pause in all AI research. Where did Elon say that ?


From your link

> Therefore, we call on all AI labs to immediately pause for at least 6 months the training of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4.

The ironic thing about your link is it tries to say this doesn’t mean to stop development. But testing is part of development so the whole thing is short sighted.

Asking for any kind of pause is flat out dumb.


Asking for any kind of pause is flat out dumb.

No it’s not, that’s why human cloning doesn’t exist. Because a pause happened…


Human cloning is still being researched…


Have you seen a human clone lately ?


In the news? Yes there’s articles last year.


Can we just forget gunpowder and go back to tercios? That was when wars were fought by men, with skill and honor and bravery!


Are you attempting to argue that successful gun control isn't beneficial to society?


What might even be the endgame of the CCP and the Kremlin with respect to AI?

This tech is getting increasingly powerful. They don't necessarily want their own population to gain more individual power as they themselves don't want to lose control.


> What might even be the endgame of the CCP and the Kremlin with respect to AI? > This tech is getting increasingly powerful. They don't necessarily want their own population to gain more individual power as they themselves don't want to lose control.

They don’t need AI to control their citizens. And AI isn’t going to help their citizens rebel against government.

You have 2 countries hell bent on being the most powerful countries in the world. By any means necessary. One is currently invading another country. The other has 18 border disputes, threatening to invade a country, encroaching on a couple of others, and threatening the US.

The question is, how can the continued advancement of AI help them achieve their goals if the rest of the world hits the pause button while the topic is discussed?


Russia is under extremely heavy sanctions and doesn't have access to the GPU clusters to do the work required, so I'm not worried about them.

I thought there were also some export controls to high end chips on China too?

Also, as human beings are they not concerned about the potential for danger to themselves that this technology may present? If not, why not?


"Mr. President, we must not allow an AI gap!"


it's not clear that many AI based jobs will be better than huamns, just cheaper. And in anycase most of those jobs will be automated.

So you have europe, a multilingual country, maybe in the balanace they'll keep more jobs that way(i assume some will still be shipped accross the net), and in general prices with be slightly higher.


Oh I'm sorry. I didn't know it was AI that got us OUT of the dark ages in the first place.


Typical rust programmer



Changing a bunch of bits on a magnetic drive or another media is not like building an airplane that flies or a car that runs! Software engineering is closer to a priest that supposedly can communicate to god than it is to someone that builds a car!

I have a CS degree too and people without it are sometimes much better than me at slinging code

Actually forget people, you should realize how far this is from engineering when ChatGPT can do it better than me :) Ask ChatGPT to build a car though and we will see how far it gets.


>on a magnetic drive or another media is not like building an airplane that flies or a car that runs

I ain't sure what century you live in, but it's not the current one...

If I program some bits on my hard drive and now a stepper motor punches thought the side of the mount its bolted too. Or if I say "set the flaps to this pitch in this condition" and that doesn't happen, then something very real, and very bad, happens in the reality we both exist in.

Almost everything complicated that exists today uses electronic control in one way or another. Screwing up the software in that ECU is just as much as of an error as using the wrong metal in its manufacture.


Yeah honestly maybe I am feeling a bit jaded by a career in software development with jira and other bs. It doesnt feel like engineering to me :)

If youre doing anything that physically moves something like a stepper motor i have a lot of respect for that.


AI is the new bitcoin! I remember some people complaining about bitcoin in a similar fashion some time back while other people bought it.


So you mean a new hot [mostly misunderstood but accessible] technology is the new hot [but mostly misunderstood but accessible] technology.

People would speak of "the net" c. 1999 similarly, like it was this nebulous creature rising up off its operating table! I guess we say "cloud" now so maybe nothing's changed.


“Old man shouting at the clouds”

Its not easy to stop technology with regulation. At this point companies in many countries have started building their LLMs on the whole internet.

Just upgrade yourself)


As a tech pioneer and also an otherwise liberal person, I welcome this move. The company called Meta is doing extreme damage to society and needs to be stopped at all costs.


> needs to be stopped at all costs.

I can think of a few prices I wouldn't be willing to pay. This bill is one of them.


Wait till you have kids who get their lives destroyed by Meta products.


While I am admittedly not a parent, I promise you that my approach to parenting would be to parent my children and not every child in the state.


There is a point to be made that anything coming from Meta is just designed by its makers to destroy your mental health for ad clicks. Other companies do not have such toxic business model even Tiktok.


Carpentry would be my recommendation. Even feels a bit like working on a react app because you are constantly making new tools to make your work easier.


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